To: bobbdobbs
Karl Marx said that capitalism, left unfettered through free trade, would impoverish the working class and lead to conditions whereby the communist revolution would occur.
This was utter nonsense in the 19th century; the "working class" has only grown in material wealth since then. It is still nonsense now.
Those who are quoting Marx in this capacity are buying into his theories of social and economic relations. Thus they are pseudo-Marxists who are trying to be conservatives on Marx's terms. The idiocy of this position cannot be overstated.
They should also read up on the Labour Theory of Value, which is a total idiocy.
Regards, Ivan
87 posted on
01/08/2006 12:32:11 PM PST by
MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
The Labor Theory of Value, and its sire, is far too advanced a concept for these folks. Trust me.
89 posted on
01/08/2006 12:40:34 PM PST by
1rudeboy
To: MadIvan
Thus they are pseudo-Marxists who are trying to be conservatives on Marx's terms.
Which is exactly how the WTO couches its rhetoric. All "free traders" engage in the Hegelian dialectic pitting 'capitalism' against Marxism. That dialectic eliminates any other choice in the discussion, for example free enterprise, which is the system upon which America was built, against "free trade".
In the eyes of the falsely named "free traders" if you are for free enterprise, you are against capitalism, so in their eyes you are the same as the communists because there are no other choices in the dialectic. The pseudo-marxists, are in truth, the falsely named "free traders", as they are the ones promoting central control of the global economy, and the economy of the "member states", through a soviet of unelected bureaucrats called the WTO. They act at the behest of "member states", not nations. If the WTO was a conference of nations, it would defy the "free trader" abhorrence for sovereignty. The "free traders" language is carefully chosen to support communistic 'consensus' as opposed to true representation by nations, under their own sovereign laws.
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