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To: Celebur
Let me reiterate--science predated the RCC, and thus the RCC (and those other churches) did NOT invent science.

You treat science as some nebulous mythical entity. Western science with its rules, organization, hierarchy (doctors, professors, corporations) and practice was created in the Middle Ages by the Roman Catholic Church along with the development of scholasticism and network of universities which were given charters and funding.

Science did not jump out of the head of Zeus and was not even the continuation of Platonic Academy or Pythagorean secret societies. Your anti-Christians bias blinds you to the historical fact.

This that the natural sciences are based on the belief on intelligible and consistent rules governing the visible Universe is not a coincidence. It is the logical outcome of scholastic theology and philosophy.

70 posted on 01/04/2006 4:38:24 PM PST by A. Pole (If the lettuce cutters were paid $10 more per hour, the lettuce heads would cost FIVE CENTS more!)
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To: A. Pole

"You treat science as some nebulous mythical entity."

No, I don't. I treat science as something that gradually EVOLVED from earlier philosophies. Yes, the Catholic church did have an input into the development of science, but it did NOT invent nor create it.


"Western science with its rules, organization, hierarchy (doctors, professors, corporations) and practice was created in the Middle Ages by the Roman Catholic Church along with the development of scholasticism and network of universities which were given charters and funding."

You forgot to mention that through the translation of Arabic works into Latin, the RCC inherited much of the Islamic science as well as that of the Greeks before them (since they did a much better job of preserving the works of, for example, Hippocrates, and it by through Arabic translation of those Greek works that our Western world inherited that knowledge).



"Science did not jump out of the head of Zeus..."

Thank you for agreeing with me.


"...and was not even the continuation of Platonic Academy or Pythagorean secret societies."

There I beg to differ. Science grew out the these. Would it have developed without the likes of Plato or Pythagorus? Yes, because someone else would have come along, but that doesn't change the fact that modern science is a distant decendent of the philosophies of these intellectuals.



"Your anti-Christians bias blinds you to the historical fact."

You know nothing about me or my bias. In fact, you're completely wrong in your assumption, and it's also irrelevant to this discussion.


107 posted on 01/05/2006 4:15:46 PM PST by Celebur
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