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To: NJ_gent
Look at Iran, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and Taliban-era Afghanistan to get an idea of what happens when you replace things like science and math with philosophy and belief.

Are you equaling Islamic beliefs with Christianity? When Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan had "things like science" and when did they replace them? How come that science itself was CREATED by the Roman Catholic Church in the Middle Ages? Do you think that science could exist without philosophy?

51 posted on 01/04/2006 2:31:08 PM PST by A. Pole (If the lettuce cutters were paid $10 more per hour, the lettuce heads would cost FIVE CENTS more!)
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To: A. Pole

"How come that science itself was CREATED by the Roman Catholic Church in the Middle Ages? Do you think that science could exist without philosophy?"

Perhaps you are unaware that science predates the Roman Catholic Church? The Greeks practised it, but they called it "natural philosophy." So yes, by extension, science came out of a particular specialty of philosophy. But the RCC actually first stymied science before finally accepting it (the smell of burning heretics must have been too much); they most certainly did NOT invent or create it.

Funny, though, because Islam claims to have invented science too. . .


54 posted on 01/04/2006 2:45:42 PM PST by Celebur
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To: A. Pole
Are you equaling Islamic beliefs with Christianity?

Are you equating ID with Christianity? ID is just as compatible with Islam as it is with Christianity.

When Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan had "things like science" and when did they replace them?

Islam was a major supporter of scientific endeavors in the Middle Ages, especially astronomy and mathematics. We don't write with Roman numerals, we use Arabic numerals. The use of the digit "0" came from them (write "zero" in Roman numerals). The very name of Algebra comes from "al-jabr", an Arabic phrase.

How come that science itself was CREATED by the Roman Catholic Church in the Middle Ages?

You can't be serious. You actually believe that the scientific method was developed by the RCC?

78 posted on 01/04/2006 8:40:07 PM PST by RonF
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