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To: ElectricStrawberry
Wouldn't want someone introducing French into a Calculus class either.

Should the courts supervise this separation between French and Calculus? What evil things will happen if some school board dares to violate this?

Beliefs are not science. There is belief content in science and the religion is not all mysticism and belief.

Also there are thing which are being taught is schools like human rights or justice which have religious origin. Science by itself amoral - it can find ways to cure diseases and the way to poison people.

Secularism was tried in Soviet Union and proved to disastrous. It was tried in France and it created vacuum for Muslim invasion. Why the former fellow travelers insist on repeating this failed experiment?

20 posted on 01/04/2006 1:26:24 PM PST by A. Pole (If the lettuce cutters were paid $10 more per hour, the lettuce heads would cost FIVE CENTS more!)
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To: A. Pole

"Science by itself amoral - it can find ways to cure diseases and the way to poison people."


Organized religion (not 'God', per se) is also amoral. It has found ways to provide aid to people in need and has found ways (and reasons) to kill those which it deems to be witches/unbelievers/infidels,etc.


24 posted on 01/04/2006 1:33:46 PM PST by Blzbba (Sub sole nihil novi est)
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To: A. Pole
"Should the courts supervise this separation between French and Calculus?"

Is it appropriate? No, I don't think it is. However, considering the fact that I think it's far more inappropriate for schoolboards to decide that French should be taught in lieu of Calculus, I find it to be the lesser of two evils for a court to intervene.

"What evil things will happen if some school board dares to violate this?"

Look at Iran, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and Taliban-era Afghanistan to get an idea of what happens when you replace things like science and math with philosophy and belief.
32 posted on 01/04/2006 1:54:19 PM PST by NJ_gent (Modernman should not have been banned.)
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To: A. Pole
There is belief content in science and the religion is not all mysticism and belief.

"Beliefs" have no place in a science room in any manner, only that which is true "science" belongs, you know...all that stuff that follows the scientific method. WTF has said that religion is all mysticism and beliefs? I was talking about ONLY this notion of ID being a "belief", but if you wanna go there, NOTHING having to do with religion belongs in a SCIENCE classroom, you know...the basis of your headline. Nice strawman though.

Things like "human rights" and "justice" which may have notions of spirituality that are taught in school have nothing to do with the evolution/ID debate and the attempt to discredit the ET in a science class by introducing into a science room the baseless notion of ID. Nice red herring.

Science being or not being amoral has nothing to do with any discussions on this matter, that's a subjective judgement that can be foisted upon ANYTHING. Police can be amoral too, so can doctors, so can YOU. "Amorality" is yet another red herring.

Slippery slope alert. Communist secularism and French secularism have nothing to do with what is happening in the United States unless you follow the illogic of a slippery slope argument.

41 posted on 01/04/2006 2:12:13 PM PST by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment...cut in half during the Clinton years....Nec Aspera Terrent!!!)
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