Scott Thomas update: mom's guardianship continued!

Scott's fight website ^ | 1/3/06 | Pamela Patton

[floriduh voter]

Ted said he wanted to live. How can a son take Ted's right to live away from him and the people who are starving Ted apparently aren't aware of Ted's desire to stay alive?

Anyway, Jeb Bush's phone number is on my tag line. Maybe Jeb needs some calls too. It's getting out of hand...if the United States doesn't condone torture, there's sure a lot of it going on in Florida.

[floriduh voter]

APPALLING. excerpt from www.northcountrygazette.org

"The man was responding", Vinson says, "it's baby steps but he was responding. He would take my hand if I told him to, he was responsive to commands. They allow you a swab to wipe the lips off--he would take it from my hand, put it in his mouth and suck for all he was worth. He could raise his hands, raise his legs, hold his leg up on command. At one point, someone told him to pick up his right arm which he can't do so he took his left arm over and picked up his right. One of the doctors came in Sunday morning and asked me how I am and I said well, you know at this point I'm not fine. He said what's the problem and I said this man doesn't belong here. He says why do you say that and I said because of all the things that he can do. He said, well, what can he do?"

"What would impress you", Vinson said to which the doctor responded, 'to hear him speak".

FV says: Ted only 73 years old. From New York, visiting Florida, ends up in a hospice for a stroke. Last time I looked strokes were NOT A TERMINAL ILLNESS.

[Ohioan from Florida]

Strokes can be fatal, but Ted apparently survived his. Now that he has, he should be given a chance to recuperate, rather than be put on his deathbed. Is he on a feeding tube, I wonder, otherwise, how can they deny him food and water? We know that is against the Florida law. Is there anything saying that he will aspirate it into his lungs?

[Sun]

When I called Bishop Lynch's and Charlie Crist's office, I told them that I would NEVER retire in FL when the time comes. After this, I would not even go there for a visit.

If Ted didn't visit FL, he would not be dehydrating and starving in a hospice right now.

[Lesforlife]

Father God, you and you alone know the fate of Ted
Sith.

Your Terri warriors pray for his survival, knowing
full well that the forces of darkness are arrayed
against him.

We pray for your wisdom and guidance, in order
that we might stay his execution by the state
of Florida.

Lord we ask that this vacation destination might suffer
from the wicked decisions it perpetrates.

May Florida's pro-death policies awaken our nation
to tourists avoiding spending $$ in a state that
might facilitate a visitor's premature demise!

[Wampus SC]

"It seems you better not even go to Florida for a week's vaction, let alone live there - especially if you are at an age when you could have a stroke."

[Wampus SC]

"We have the benefit of hindsight. I believe eugenics was viewed differently and less ominously back then -- more a fashion than a passion. My grandfather thought well of eugenics. He wouldn't have hurt a fly. He wasn't political. To him it was "modern" and "scientific." He liked to be modern and scientific."

That's the same hook present day so-called ethicists and other death cultists use to get us to accept forced euthanasia, that close companion of eugenics. Our view of life, death, and the value of a human is hopelessly outmoded - so they say. People will go along with nearly anything for fear of being thought old fashioned or unscientific.

[Wampus SC]

>> We're back to that infamous pre-Pearl Harbor poll again. And as to America today, all things old are new again...

"I'm not sure I understand your point. Would you kindly elaborate?"

Reference to a very recent post, this thread. Prior to Pearl Harbor those weekly polls you used to see in the Sunday papers showed high approval for the Axis. From 40-50% in some areas of the country. This included a high proportion who'd favor entering the war on the Axis side. Of course this changed after Pearl Harbor. Point was illustrative of the totalitarian (fascist variety) undercurrent that has always been present in American society. And how that undercurrent comes to the forefront from time to time. Like now. ---- But don't worry about now. As long as we don't call ourselves a police state, we'll be free. :) ....

[Wampus SC]

I should have settled for Lindy. :)

When did he write "Monism"? Anyway, don't know why I wrote H. et. al. when it was the et. al. I was getting at. Those Nazis directly responsible for applying Social Darwinism and eugenics to society built the justification for it on the whole body of work. This included the recent and the American as well as German.

Let's not forget that Sanger and some of her buddies got official recognition and commendation from the real live Nazi in Germany --- for contributions to the fields of eugenics and racialist "science".

On second thought, let's choose to forget it. If we do, our team will have a pristine past.

[T'wit]

>> Prior to Pearl Harbor those weekly polls you used to see in the Sunday papers showed high approval for the Axis. From 40-50% in some areas of the country. This included a high proportion who'd favor entering the war on the Axis side. Of course this changed after Pearl Harbor. Point was illustrative of the totalitarian (fascist variety) undercurrent that has always been present in American society. And how that undercurrent comes to the forefront from time to time.

Let me offer a slightly different take. I view the 1930s -- aka "the Red Decade" -- as the breaking of an Old World tidal wave on the American shore. Iow, it was new and alien to us rather than (or far more than) an expression of the totalitarian undercurrent you refer to. It was the arrival of the French revolution supplanting our own libertarian beginnings.

We like to point our fingers at the nasty statists in Italy, Germany and Russia. Albert Jay Nock pointed out -- contemporaneously -- that the same statist philosophy prevailed in England, in France, and was very much at work here, in the New Deal. (Survivors of the New Deal era still think FDR sits next to, and slightly above, God.) It was all the same stuff.

Now, there is nothing like internecine warfare for bloodletting! The differences were miniscule, but the socialist brothers -- red, brown, black shirts -- fought it out furiously for their particular doctrines. From the old American libertarian view, there's not two cents worth of difference in the bunch. Hitler's standing in the club is just as authentic as Mao's or Lenin's. Mussolini wrote purer expressions of statist belief than any of them.

We remember that they fought on the streets of Berlin. We forget that they fought on the streets of New York -- in uniform! All those Nazi and Fascist rallies and Communist May Day marches in Europe -- we had them here, in uniform. I remember coming across a column by Walter Lippmann, the liberal's liberal, treating Hitler with utmost respect. FDR's NRA, the old Blue Eagle, was expressly modeled on Mussolini fascism. Yes, of course there was strong support here for the Axis.

From the nativist view, again, they were all the same critters. They thought so too, in their fashion! In the street wars here as well as in Europe, the Red shirts and the Brown shirts were each other's best recruits. And look at the two years of the Nazi-Soviet non-aggression pact when Hitler and Uncle Joe were buddies! They all had the totalitarian frame of mind. Of course that kind of thinking is still around, big time.

Amazing how WWII blinded us. We entered the war (and remained) aligned with the Reds. Opinion was shaped accordingly against the Blacks and the Browns. But it was much more a brothers' war than we are yet willing to admit.

All this ranting and I'm not even on my third cup of coffee :-) Take with the usual dose of salt.

[8mmMauser]

Here is more on Ted Stith. Please review recent posts on this latest atrocity. Time is running out.

PORT CHARLOTTE, FLA---For the last 25 years, he's given food to the needy by the basketful.

Now he's being starved to death.

Ted Stith, a farmer from Cincinnatus, NY, went to Florida to visit a friend but after the 73-year-old man suffered a stroke, his son put him in a hospice, ordered all food and water stopped and left him to die. The son then went back to New York to sell his father's possessions at auction---at his father's own auction house.

Ted Stith Wants To Live, Son Busy Selling His Possessions

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(this includes Ohioan from Florida's ping list, update to 01/18.)

[T'wit]

That would be hilarious if it weren't so... true.

[8mmMauser]

North Country Gazette picked up on Bobby Schindler's response to Cathy Young.

Schindler Says Globe Article Most Irresponsible Ever On Terri's Case

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[T'wit]

The son is selling his soul for pennies. Not that it matters how much he gets for it: For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? (Mark 8:36 KJV)

[8mmMauser]

At the auction, they announced another sale to pay for the shipment of the deceased Ted back home and burial. How much do you want to bet they have him cremated at the lowest possible cost and forget the shipment?

Sadly many of us have witnessed such callousness in our own families and it sometimes does not come out until a parent is dead or dying.

[syriacus]

Take with the usual dose of salt.

I'll take 10 pounds of that, please. Nicely written.

[Dante3]

Horrible.

[syriacus]

For those who think the government should not stick it's nose into this family's business...

1. Why should the government's role, in assuring a minimum quality of care for individuals, stop abruptly at the moment the individual's spouse (or child) takes over the reins?
   
2. What evil hand has decided to draw the curtain around the sick bed, so the government can no longer see what is happening to the sickest and most vulnerable?

[syriacus]

Are severely ill patients no longer "persons"?

[syriacus]

Great, great letter by Bobby Schindler. Thanks for posting the link.