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Microsoft Aiding China's Repression?
>bt: brain terminal ^ | 3 January 2006 @ 1:48PM | Evan Coyne Maloney

Posted on 01/03/2006 1:47:12 PM PST by Lloyd227

Microsoft Aiding China's Repression?
3 January 2006 @ 1:48PM
Is Microsoft helping the Chinese communists suppress speech that they don't like? It sure sounds that way.

Reporter Rebecca MacKinnon tells the story of Zhao Jing who blogs under the handle "Michael Anti." MacKinnon notes that "Anti is one of China's edgiest journalistic bloggers, often pushing at the boundaries of what is acceptible." His blog, hosted on Microsoft's MSN Spaces website, was recently shut down, apparently by Microsoft. So MacKinnon conducted her own tests, and discovered that MSN Spaces is systematically censoring words and removing blogs thought to be threatening to the Chinese regime:

 

On December 16th I created a blog and attempted to make various posts with politically sensitive words. When I attempted to post entries with titles like "Tibet Independence" or "Falun Gong" (a banned religious group), I got an error message saying: "This item includes forbidden language. Please delete forbidden language from this item."

However I was successful in posting blog entries with non-controversial titles, but with politically sensitive words in the text body. For instance, a blog post titled "I love you" had "Tibet independence" in the text body, and a post titled "I am happy" had "Falun Gong" in the body [...]

This was on Friday December 16th. By Monday the 19th, the whole blog had been taken down [...] with an error message: "This space is temporarily unavailable. Please try again later."

Now, It is VERY important to note that the inaccessible blog was moved or removed at the server level and that the blog remains inaccessible from the United States as well as from China. This means that the action was taken NOT by Chinese authorities responsible for filtering and censoring the internet for Chinese viewers, but by MSN staff at the level of the MSN servers.

 


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; Technical
KEYWORDS: censorship; china; freespeech; internet; microsoft; repression
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1 posted on 01/03/2006 1:47:14 PM PST by Lloyd227
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To: rdb3; chance33_98; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Bush2000; PenguinWry; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; ...

2 posted on 01/03/2006 1:57:59 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Lloyd227

Gee, if I had a company and the PRC govt asked me to do something, I would probably do the opposite.


3 posted on 01/03/2006 2:01:45 PM PST by Still Thinking (Disregard the law of unintended consequences at your own risk.)
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To: Still Thinking

blogspot maybe more free speech oriented. Google owns them.


4 posted on 01/03/2006 2:09:52 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: Lloyd227
It's a bad day for microsoft isn't it?
5 posted on 01/03/2006 2:14:19 PM PST by zeugma (Warning: Self-referential object does not reference itself.)
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To: Lloyd227; N3WBI3; Prime Choice
I gots the popcorn....


6 posted on 01/03/2006 2:17:17 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Happy New Year)
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To: Still Thinking
if I had a company and the PRC govt asked me to do something, I would probably do the opposite.

Agreed, and one would think you could get good PR out of standing up to a repressive dictatorship. Maybe Microsoft is counting on future revenues from China, but they have little reason to respect American IP laws.

7 posted on 01/03/2006 2:18:28 PM PST by ThinkDifferent (I am a leaf on the wind)
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To: ShadowAce

First Yahoo now Microsoft... Guess it's just "the price of doing business in China."


8 posted on 01/03/2006 2:20:56 PM PST by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Still Thinking

"Gee, if I had a company and the PRC govt asked me to do something, I would probably do the opposite."

But if you didn't do as the PRC asked, you'd lose business. What then? I would venture a guess that 9 out of 10 freepers would do exactly as the PRC asked.


9 posted on 01/03/2006 2:21:57 PM PST by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: Jack Black
blogspot maybe more free speech oriented.

Enough so that PRC completely blocks direct access to the blogspot.com and blogger.com domains from computers in that country. I found this out while trying to update a "travel diary" blog during a trip there. Fortunately, I was able to post blog entries via e-mail from my Yahoo account.

10 posted on 01/03/2006 2:30:35 PM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative (Eschew obfuscation, ya'll.)
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To: Lloyd227

Gee wizz Wally, Is everyone going to sell their souls to China? Well Beav, yes they are.


11 posted on 01/03/2006 2:36:16 PM PST by wolfcreek
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To: Lloyd227

This isn't at all surprising to me having spent some time in MSN chat.


12 posted on 01/03/2006 2:40:16 PM PST by Sweetjustusnow (Oust the IslamoCommies here and abroad.)
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To: brownsfan
But if you didn't do as the PRC asked, you'd lose business.

Same thing goes for the US side of the pond, I bet. Modern day governments prefer to play omnipotent, and most people have some other objective (e.g. earn a profit) than tussling with the gov't - if they can go along to get along, it's nooo problem. For example, what happened to the internet archives (the wayback machine) of declassified LLNL technical reports after 9-11?

What's really odd is the US industry in crying censorship, racism, injustice, etc without actual occurance. For example, consider Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton in the race pimping industry. Consider also the NYT and it's whistle-blower sources who somehow can't be bothered to blow the actual whistle (i.e. to the actual authorities).

13 posted on 01/03/2006 2:45:00 PM PST by no-s
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To: brownsfan

Fork em. Some business you don't need.


14 posted on 01/03/2006 2:52:05 PM PST by Still Thinking (Disregard the law of unintended consequences at your own risk.)
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To: Lloyd227

Just like IBM equipment was essential for Hitler's government to be able to keep track of the geneologies of every citizen, not to mention run their police state.


15 posted on 01/03/2006 3:41:02 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: theBuckwheat
Well, that makes it all good. And I'm sure Judas's silver was well-spent, too.

Just like IBM equipment was essential for Hitler's government to be able to keep track of the geneologies of every citizen, not to mention run their police state

16 posted on 01/03/2006 4:46:54 PM PST by Salo (He hath touched me with his noodly appendage. Ramen.)
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To: Salo; Lloyd227
Just like IBM equipment was essential for Hitler's government

Oddly enough, I have personally reviewed the leasing records for IBM equipment in Europe prior to WWII. It was mostly leased in the late twenties and early thirties before the Nazis took power. Most of the customers were Customs agencies. In 1989 I saw records for keypunches and tabulating machinery which had been under continous lease (with maintenance!) to Austrian Customs since 1926...

Having access to the entire dataset I researched this as part of QA-ing the database it went into...

17 posted on 01/16/2006 10:34:39 PM PST by no-s
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To: Lloyd227

According to FNC, President Hu uses Windows.

Just think : China is the prototype for the New World Order. What better way to make Windows the official OS of the NWO by kissing the ass of the president of the NWO prototype?


18 posted on 04/18/2006 10:14:55 PM PDT by bigdcaldavis (Xandros : In a world without fences, who needs Gates?)
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