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To: highball; Quark2005

#####When your "opinion" can be expressed in scientific terms, it should absolutely be considered. Until then, you're asking for special treatment for your opinion and your opinion alone.#####


The reason I brought up the issue of gender differences was to point out that science comes under political attack all the time. Usually, the attack comes from the left. And usually the response is to capitulate to the leftists. How many members of Harvard's exalted math, physics, or chemistry departments came to the aid of their college president when he created a nationwide furor for merely suggesting that it might be possible that males have superior skills in certain areas (math, etc.) than females? From what I can see, they rolled over, kept quiet, and agreed to yet another affirmative action plan as reparations for the harm done to women's "psyche" by the incident. The only members of the science departments who spoke up were the feminists who denounced the president's statement, some of whom whined that they felt faint or felt like throwing up when the prez made his politically forbidden statement.

That's the way it usually goes when the left demands that science be censored or politicized. The left gets its way. But if a Christian steps up and merely says, hey, science doesn't have all the answers. Maybe there is a supernatural existence and a greater intelligence who is the author of all this order we observe. Maybe the kids in science class should be allowed to consider it as a possibility. If that happens, all hell breaks loose from the supposed defenders of science. People who would cower in the corner and beg forgiveness if they inadvertently noted a scientific fact that offends a PC group, suddenly start pounding their chest like Tarzan and bragging about defending the purity of science.


488 posted on 01/04/2006 11:19:24 AM PST by puroresu (Conservatism is an observation; Liberalism is an ideology)
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To: puroresu

So your answer to the left's PC is to insert your own?

Your PC isn't any better than theirs. Better to eliminate PC entirely.


505 posted on 01/04/2006 11:36:33 AM PST by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: puroresu
But if a Christian steps up and merely says, hey, science doesn't have all the answers.

I know of no scientist in their right mind who would make that claim. There is indeed a large void in our knowledge. The void is filled either with the supernatural or the undiscovered or both. But to say that science can discern between the the supernatural & undiscovered is dishonest. Such things lie outside the province of science and, while they make for interesting conversation, don't belong in a science curriculum.

If it ain't testable, it ain't science.

509 posted on 01/04/2006 11:43:03 AM PST by Quark2005 (Divination is NOT science.)
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