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You know what i think: There are really only two kinds of people in the world, those who look at what is directly, and those who look at what is through the filter of a doctrine. Many of our friends seem definitely to fall into the latter camp.

Now, shall I be flamed for that remark?

So very true, betty boop! And if you are to be flamed, then I shall be flamed as well. Thank you so much for all your excellent posts!

(And I do think everyone will eventually "get it".)

The crux of this trial was not the merits of Darwinism or my belief that a Creator is behind the origins of the universe. The crux of the trial in reality was discern whether this was an effort to insert a Trojan Horse, devoid to any reference to God, using weasel words hide it's intentions, to somehow break open and introduce God and Christianity into the classroom.

Even the Discovery Institute has essentially used that as their template for success. Their wedge strategy has basically outlined their tactics on how to advance this.

I've always been suspicious that fundamental and evangelical Christians have embraced the Intelligent Design argument since it never mentions specifically God as the Creator. Usually when any "watering down" and not calling God a God occurs, these groups simply will not tolerate it. Yet, for the last 10 years or so, they have endorsed something they normally and rightfully would reject.

This whole thing is based on a lie to gain acceptance. Even the parties in the suit were cited for lying (perjury perhaps) during the case process. Those of faith are reduced to advancing a lie? The ends justify the means? Are we proud of that?

Science and scripture won't always line up. Those who wrote and recorded what has now become scripture often had little understanding. Most if not all could ot fathom a round world when in fact it was widely understood that there were indeed 4 corners to our earth, or the Sun rotated around the earth.

I frankly have no problem with the differences of the origin of man being discussed in school. As a Christian, I do have faith that in some shape or form God had his hand in all this.

But to create a Trojan Horse and then lie about it.........