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To: furball4paws

Then that goes beyond ID as I understand it. I am also told that non-Christians hold to ID as well.

I appreciate the discussion. In any case, whether ID is religious or not makes little difference to me. The debate is in and of itself religious, as evolution which is atheistic is taught as fact in 100% of public schools in America. All other theories are banned with a fervor that goes beyond science.

Consider the intensely personal tone of the ID threads on FR. I've seen some incredibly nasty posts by evolutionists on this forum. Perhaps others have engaged in that as well, I don't know.


330 posted on 01/03/2006 9:15:37 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: Zack Nguyen

OK Zack. I thank you for your civility.

I agree that many non-Christians support ID. I'd say a big percentage of Muslims would fall into that category.

I am afraid that you are being a little dishonest when you say "all other theories are banned....". Other than Evolution what other scientific theories are there for the origin a species? A religious concept cannot be a scientific concept, by definition. I don't want to see religion in the science classroom, but I have no problem with it in other subjects.

Perhaps you should read the comments of the CR/IDers more carefully. I've been called a "beast that will rot in Hell", an "atheistic, communistic fag", a "baby-killer" and "Nazi" so many times I've lost count.

Mostly I try to avoid name calling, but even I have slipped a few times.

Have a good evening.


333 posted on 01/03/2006 9:27:43 PM PST by furball4paws (The new elixir of life - dehydrated toad urine.)
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To: Zack Nguyen
All other theories are banned with a fervor that goes beyond science.

Wrong, boyo. At the moment there are no other theories. IDers seem to think their position must be considered science even though it lacks any positive evidence or testable hypotheses. If or when ID proponents get off their duffs and actually do some science then and only then will they have a dog in this hunt. Poking at evolution does not constitute POSITIVE evidence for ID.

I know it comforts you to think there is some sort of Grand Conspiracy to keep the masses ignorant of all those "alternate theories" but in this day and age, with the advent of the internet, it should be pretty easy to get the word out on a new theory -- IF THERE ACTUALLY WAS ONE.

347 posted on 01/04/2006 3:46:43 AM PST by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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