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To: thomaswest
Again, strawman.

I took chemistry in high school and college and didn't have a problem with litmus tests. I am not aware of anyone that does either.

Answer the questions that were posed instead of making up some contrived and imaginary student/person and event.

Your post wrongly assumes and concludes that it is impossible for a creationist, or non-evolutionist, to make scientific contributions. They have and will continue to do so.

How do the evolutionary faith-based assumed conclusions (HOX gene mutations as biological mechanisms for evolution from fish to land mammal, false feathered dinosaurs like ,Sinosauropteryx, and etc.)help us to actually observe the world around us in a manner that leads to scientific contributions?

238 posted on 01/03/2006 6:06:24 PM PST by pby
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To: pby

You posted: "Your post wrongly assumes and concludes that it is impossible for a creationist, or non-evolutionist, to make scientific contributions. They have and will continue to do so.

How do the evolutionary faith-based assumed conclusions (HOX gene mutations as biological mechanisms for evolution from fish to land mammal, false feathered dinosaurs like ,Sinosauropteryx, and etc.)help us to actually observe the world around us in a manner that leads to scientific contributions?"

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I remain curious. Has any creationist or IDist ever discovered a new species? Has any creationist or IDist ever contributed to any taxanomic classification? Has any creationist or IDist ever made a contribution to medical science? I would like to know.

I mean, most of us do not go to witch doctors when we have an ailment. Most of us go to people who have a good basis in biology and science, and although they are mensch and fallible, they are better than astrologers, palm readers, and witch doctors.

I ask, what is the difference between ID and witch doctors? Both claim that a god is in control and He must be propitiated. In your view, where is there a place for cause and effect?

"Cause and effect" works very well for naturalistic, materialistic science, and for conservative values. You want to throw this overboard for relativistic morals? Just because you can't understand evolution?


339 posted on 01/03/2006 10:17:34 PM PST by thomaswest (just curious)
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