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Totally sideline, hosepipe, but do we have any Scriptural account testifying that Gamaliel was not saved? Not saved ever? Couldn't he might have been? (:

Also, there's a new Sunday program on my local Christian station that I found interesting and so looked up their Web site. You may find you like what they have to say, too: Plain Truth Ministries

Scripture readings and teachings at Shady Rill today were from Zechariah 14:1-10 and Micah 4:1-8!!!

[ but do we have any Scriptural account testifying that Gamaliel was not saved? Not saved ever? Couldn't he might have been? ]

Actually, I suppose, but the point is, the power that religion has over people.. Like a drug.. Many will and do sacrifice their lives for drugs.. Religion is a strong drug, even stonger than Heroin.. or Crack.. that IS the point..

You can be extremely religious and miss God completely.. and probably have missed him because you ARE religious, whatever religion.. Religion is a club, but you are born again into a family, not a club.. Many clubs only one family..