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To: angkor
Suggest you go over to the Steve Gibson site and read about the exploit.

There are entire websites set up to debunk Mr. Gibson....you can start here: http://grcsucks.com/

86 posted on 01/02/2006 5:06:13 PM PST by Decepticon (The sheep pretend the wolf will never come, but the sheepdog lives for that day (NRA)
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To: Decepticon

It doesn't matter. The handwriting is on the wall. It's a logical conclusion.


112 posted on 01/02/2006 6:15:36 PM PST by angkor
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To: Decepticon
By the way, the site you sent me to about Gibson (and I only cited him because he was cited earlier in this thread), makes the same point that I made to you above: "his crusade has always been a router security issue, not an operating system security issue, and every legitimate router security analyst knows this."

Point is, operating systems are not the issue, whether Windows, OS X, or Linux. Because when exploits can be crafted by script kiddies (or automatons) in large variant numbers with minor differences in exploit code, then the job of routers, firewalls, IDS, and VA become more and more onerous. Or they simplu break or get raced.There comes a point when their job is *entirely* dependent upon (a) self-generating signature identifications and (b) ASIC-based firewalls or parallel processing platforms. In other words, the existing model of perimeter security models no longer works.

Consequently, the exposure of *all* operating systems becomes more problematic over time.

I don't know why you're arguing the point, every firewall and IDS vendor and security person I know accepts that evolution.

114 posted on 01/02/2006 6:31:48 PM PST by angkor
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