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Other psychologists have pointed out how BJ Clinton demonstrated the traits of sociopathy. He at least was held accountable, to a minimal extent, by our laws. However, he broke every one that he thought that he could get away with breaking. If he had absolute power, like Saddam had, I would shudder to think what would happen. We need the Patriot Act, but it must have limits. Hillary would be bad with the limits; she would be a disaster without the limits.
1 posted on 01/02/2006 11:05:33 AM PST by DeweyCA
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To: DeweyCA

"Normal people don’t aspire to run third world dictatorships."

While I'm always suspicious of long-distance psychoanalysis, I've always said the same thing. The doc has some interesting ideas.


2 posted on 01/02/2006 11:16:07 AM PST by Felis_irritable
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To: DeweyCA

Excellent article.

This woman puts her finger on an important fact: Liberals do not understand the nature of evil.


3 posted on 01/02/2006 11:20:42 AM PST by I still care (You don't demonstrate tolerance for minorities by apologising for your own heritage- John Howard)
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To: DeweyCA

A Patriot Act or lack of one won't stop the Clintons, should they get another 8 years as "co-president" (talk about a Constitutional crisis, their bid should be put before the court before election day).

Hillary was found in possession (illegally) of 900 FBI files.

But I originally jumped down to post how much those opening paragraphs sound like Bubba's mental state.


4 posted on 01/02/2006 11:23:19 AM PST by weegee (Christmas - the holiday that dare not speak its name.)
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To: DeweyCA

Gotta disagree with you. Hilary has done more than President Bush without the authorization of the Patriot Act. It being illegal has no bearing on if she will do it or not. If she is not held accountable, she will do it, and does anyone thik that the MSM will hold her accountable?


5 posted on 01/02/2006 11:23:36 AM PST by chae (R.I.P. Eddie Guerrero He lied, he cheated, he stole my heart)
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To: DeweyCA
But an attachment disordered child has to be monitored every minute. [snip] Remember how Saddam/Clinton enchanted gullible western journalists?

But the media DID know the truth. CNN kept quiet about torture and abuse under Saddam to keep their Baghdad bureau open. And Newsweek filed the Monica Lewinsky story in file 13.

The media abdicated their role as journalists and now serve political agendas first. People are expendable.

6 posted on 01/02/2006 11:27:18 AM PST by weegee (Christmas - the holiday that dare not speak its name.)
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To: DeweyCA
Here is an excellent book about psychopaths that you can download and read for free! The daughter of the author makes it available for learning purposes:

The Mask of Sanity

7 posted on 01/02/2006 11:27:51 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: DeweyCA

I bet Saddam has "road rage", too.

why does everything have to be a syndrome or disease? can't there just be evil or immoral people?


8 posted on 01/02/2006 11:28:31 AM PST by Rakkasan1 (Peace de Resistance! Viva la Paper towels!)
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To: DeweyCA
What emotionally disturbed children taught me about world politics...

...is that a certain percentage of political leadership worldwide doesn't really grow up that much.

9 posted on 01/02/2006 11:30:48 AM PST by RichInOC (...oops, did I say that out loud? Bad Rich. BAD Rich.)
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I have mixed feelings about this article. My diagnosis would be "evil" rather than "attachment disorder."

But the author is absolutely correct when she argues that Saddam is not like a more or less "normal" person from the civilized world.

10 posted on 01/02/2006 11:31:46 AM PST by 68skylark
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To: DeweyCA
Review and downloadable link to the Mask of Sanity
11 posted on 01/02/2006 11:31:48 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: DeweyCA
Other psychologists have pointed out how BJ Clinton demonstrated the traits of sociopathy. He at least was held accountable, to a minimal extent, by our laws. However, he broke every one that he thought that he could get away with breaking. If he had absolute power, like Saddam had, I would shudder to think what would happen.

I like Clinton bashing as much as the next person (maybe more). But in his defense, people who become President of the U.S. -- both on the left and the right -- are not very normal. I don't think this phenomenon is unique to one party or one person.

12 posted on 01/02/2006 11:34:09 AM PST by 68skylark
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(He) does whatever he thinks he can get away with, no matter the cost to other people. They lie if they think it is advantageous to lie. They steal if they can get away with it.

That sounds like most Liberals I know.

Not surprisingly, it sounds exactly like bill and hillary clinton!

13 posted on 01/02/2006 11:49:55 AM PST by Gritty ("Americans cannot escape the final showdown with Islam" - Barbara Stock)
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To: DeweyCA
Bill Clinton is a psychopath. Here is Dr. Robert Hare's psychopath checklist (more popularly called, Anti-Social Personalit Disorder, or ASP)

Hare's PCL-R 20-item checklist

Hare's PCL-R 20-item checklist is based on Cleckley's 16-item checklist, and the following is a discussion of the concepts in the PCL-R:

1. GLIB and SUPERFICIAL CHARM -- the tendency to be smooth, engaging, charming, slick, and verbally facile. Psychopathic charm is not in the least shy, self-conscious, or afraid to say anything. A psychopath never gets tongue-tied. They have freed themselves from the social conventions about taking turns in talking, for example.

2. GRANDIOSE SELF-WORTH -- a grossly inflated view of one's abilities and self-worth, self-assured, opinionated, cocky, a braggart. Psychopaths are arrogant people who believe they are superior human beings.

3. NEED FOR STIMULATION or PRONENESS TO BOREDOM -- an excessive need for novel, thrilling, and exciting stimulation; taking chances and doing things that are risky. Psychopaths often have a low self- discipline in carrying tasks through to completion because they get bored easily. They fail to work at the same job for any length of time, for example, or to finish tasks that they consider dull or routine.

4. PATHOLOGICAL LYING -- can be moderate or high; in moderate form, they will be shrewd, crafty, cunning, sly, and clever; in extreme form, they will be deceptive, deceitful, underhanded, unscrupulous, manipulative, and dishonest.

5. CONNING AND MANIPULATIVENESS- the use of deceit and deception to cheat, con, or defraud others for personal gain; distinguished from Item #4 in the degree to which exploitation and callous ruthlessness is present, as reflected in a lack of concern for the feelings and suffering of one's victims.

6. LACK OF REMORSE OR GUILT -- a lack of feelings or concern for the losses, pain, and suffering of victims; a tendency to be unconcerned, dispassionate, coldhearted, and unempathic. This item is usually demonstrated by a disdain for one's victims.

7. SHALLOW AFFECT -- emotional poverty or a limited range or depth of feelings; interpersonal coldness in spite of signs of open gregariousness.

8. CALLOUSNESS and LACK OF EMPATHY -- a lack of feelings toward people in general; cold, contemptuous, inconsiderate, and tactless.

9. PARASITIC LIFESTYLE -- an intentional, manipulative, selfish, and exploitative financial dependence on others as reflected in a lack of motivation, low self-discipline, and inability to begin or complete responsibilities.

10. POOR BEHAVIORAL CONTROLS -- expressions of irritability, annoyance, impatience, threats, aggression, and verbal abuse; inadequate control of anger and temper; acting hastily.

11. PROMISCUOUS SEXUAL BEHAVIOR -- a variety of brief, superficial relations, numerous affairs, and an indiscriminate selection of sexual partners; the maintenance of several relationships at the same time; a history of attempts to sexually coerce others into sexual activity or taking great pride at discussing sexual exploits or conquests.

12. EARLY BEHAVIOR PROBLEMS -- a variety of behaviors prior to age 13, including lying, theft, cheating, vandalism, bullying, sexual activity, fire-setting, glue-sniffing, alcohol use, and running away from home.

13. LACK OF REALISTIC, LONG-TERM GOALS -- an inability or persistent failure to develop and execute long-term plans and goals; a nomadic existence, aimless, lacking direction in life.

14. IMPULSIVITY -- the occurrence of behaviors that are unpremeditated and lack reflection or planning; inability to resist temptation, frustrations, and urges; a lack of deliberation without considering the consequences; foolhardy, rash, unpredictable, erratic, and reckless.

15. IRRESPONSIBILITY -- repeated failure to fulfill or honor obligations and commitments; such as not paying bills, defaulting on loans, performing sloppy work, being absent or late to work, failing to honor contractual agreements.

16. FAILURE TO ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR OWN ACTIONS -- a failure to accept responsibility for one's actions reflected in low conscientiousness, an absence of dutifulness, antagonistic manipulation, denial of responsibility, and an effort to manipulate others through this denial.

17. MANY SHORT-TERM MARITAL RELATIONSHIPS -- a lack of commitment to a long-term relationship reflected in inconsistent, undependable, and unreliable commitments in life, including marital.

18. JUVENILE DELINQUENCY -- behavior problems between the ages of 13- 18; mostly behaviors that are crimes or clearly involve aspects of antagonism, exploitation, aggression, manipulation, or a callous, ruthless tough-mindedness.

19. REVOCATION OF CONDITION RELEASE -- a revocation of probation or other conditional release due to technical violations, such as carelessness, low deliberation, or failing to appear.

20. CRIMINAL VERSATILITY -- a diversity of types of criminal offenses, regardless if the person has been arrested or convicted for them; taking great pride at getting away with crimes.

 

From: An American Obsession ... the Psychopath

I wish to educate and warn you the reader of some of the more common signs that the person in question -- usually a male -- is someone you should detach from...and quickly! The sooner you can detect a troublesome person, the better off you will be. One quick check is your placement of him/r on the a$$hole scale. Now remember, not every jerk or idiot is necessarily psychotic! However, the psychopath is an extreme form of the "a$$hole" personality type, they've just learned to conceal it most of the time and appear to be "nice, charming" people. They are developmentally stuck in their early years, still fighting the battles of authority and parental control over them!

 


14 posted on 01/02/2006 12:14:41 PM PST by Bon mots
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To: DeweyCA

ping


16 posted on 01/02/2006 12:45:04 PM PST by Oratam
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To: DeweyCA


Saddam should be shot, not treated.


18 posted on 01/02/2006 12:52:21 PM PST by SouthernFreebird
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To: DeweyCA

Pissing down the bathroom heat register is about as good an idea as trying to take out one terrorist at a time.


21 posted on 01/06/2006 9:44:37 AM PST by Old Professer (Fix the problem, not the blame!)
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To: DeweyCA

This also says alot about Muslim extremists and how they're wired. Can't wait for her next column that explains how to deal with the problem.


23 posted on 01/06/2006 10:49:52 AM PST by PLOM...NOT!
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