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To: WilliamofCarmichael
As for jobs lost to productivity increases I am highly suspect of any numbers because there is "imported productivity." Is it productivity enhancements here or offshoring?

Well, from my previous posts, manufacturing output up 40% between 1994 and 2000. With slightly lower manufacturing employment.

Again, there was a government report released a couple of years ago that pro-offshoring folks jumped on to prove that few jobs were being sent offshore -- but the report counted only mass layoffs of 50 or more employees.

Well, you could call all 100,000,000 households and ask, but it could take a while.

So I cannot answer your questions but the news is awash with story after story of jobs already transferred and plans to send literally hundreds of thousands more offshore.

Yeah, I see Willie Green's posts too. And we still created 2 million net new jobs in the last 12 months.

757 posted on 01/05/2006 10:47:23 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (How much for the large slurpee?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
RE: "Well, from my previous posts, manufacturing output up 40% between 1994 and 2000. With slightly lower manufacturing employment."

Yes, I have seen them and news sources including talk radio. I attempted to address them. One was the hedonic question and the other was "imported productivity."

To wit, I suggested that the manufacturing portion of GDP is inflated -- I provided a quote from an officail of NAM who flatly stated that without it there would have been little or no increase in those years -- and I referenced offshoring as explained by economist Stephen Roach as a possible reason for some of labor's productivity increases in recent years.

(Something that I will never understand, though. Mr. Roach's name invokes strings of epithets here on FR, I can understand disagreement -- but some just scream insults. Go figure.)

RE: "And we still created 2 million net new jobs in the last 12 months."

Now you are in an area where there are studies and impartial numbers.

Studies by Northeastern U., Pew Hispanic Center, and the Center for Immigration Studies all state that "recent" immigrants are taking large numbers of those jobs away from citizens. Yes, the jobs are there and that's very good news! But there's more to being a Nation than "cheap" labor, IMO.

765 posted on 01/06/2006 7:16:54 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (Hillary is the she in shenanigans.)
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