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Union wages are high in some places and are not in others. So what. You haven't really done anything but express an opinion about what they've managed to do in the market. You cite a picce about UAW workers retiring earlier to stiff the employer as it were.. NONSENSE. GM, Delphi and Chrysler have been offering early retirement packages for years to *buy off* the employees so the companies don't have to honor their full retirement amount. Early retirement saves those businesses money. I'm neither pro nor anti-union. I do know that unions have grown to be abusive. You, on the other hand, don't seem capable of objectively viewing the subject for better or worse. A good chunk of america was recently in discussion over the high cost of healthcare. And now that the treason lobby has subverted the American work force, it's even harder to get healthcare as a benefit. That seems part of the larger plan to begin with - to serve the workers a knock-out punch that leaves them settling for what they can get - which is largely nothing in the new order of things. But of course, union workers are fiendish because they negotiate and get healthcare. So I suppose Rush Limbaugh is fiendish for negotiating his contract with leverage... Oh, wait, that's different, right.. He's leveraging an audience of over 20,000,000 to get what he wants. Must be a communist or somethig and damaging to the economy... Perhaps even the proximate cause of offshoring...