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To: Andrewksu

I'm not slow on the uptake. I got the point. You don't seem to be getting mine. That or you're choosing not to.

The point, blatently put, is that when you don't like worker pay rate arrived at by market forces - including unions, then that's bad and was should all do something about it. On the other hand, the treason-lobby would largely scream at heaven if one suggested that executive pay, were it curtailed, might
fair better in the pockets of the people working to get that money in the first place.

The treason lobby doesn't want intervention unless it means gutting whatever leverage a worker holds in the market in order to placate greed.

Cases of unions overstepping bounds are not the rule, they are the exception. Just like every woman, from a male point of view, isn't a gold-digging tramp because the last one was. And it is the job of unions to do well by those they represent. That is part of the market at work. If that isn't functioning, you fix it. I don't see you screatching about Executive earnings as compared to employee earnings.
In fact, many in the treason lobby in past threads have tended to argue that market forces determine such things...
Sound familiar. If the unions didn't bargain for a better deal, they'd never see it trusting in the good ethics and appreciation of execs. You may have rested your case; but, resting without making your case is both unwise and counter productive.


674 posted on 01/04/2006 1:18:04 PM PST by Havoc (President George and King George.. coincidence?)
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To: Havoc
The treason lobby doesn't want intervention unless it means gutting whatever leverage a worker holds in the market in order to placate greed.

Can't wait for you to run for office. The CPUSA would approve of your rhetoric.

676 posted on 01/04/2006 1:22:22 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (The Federal Reserve did not kill JFK. Greenspan was not on the grassy knoll.)
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To: Havoc

Corporations exist to produce profits for its shareholders. They do not exist to provide a comfortable salary to their employees. They pay their employees the least amount they can pay to get the productivity and quality they require in their products. If your jobs are being sent to third world countries, it is because the workers there are now in the market evaluation of the corporation and their productivity/quality cost has surpassed your own. You are not competing with 37 cents per hour, you are competing against the aggregate cost of paying the labor, increased shipping costs, tarriffs, etc.

If you want the jobs, increase your productivity or reduce your pay. The corporations are doing what they are supposed to do.


679 posted on 01/04/2006 1:47:06 PM PST by snap54
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To: Havoc
I haven't been asked about executive pay, nor has the conversation been about it. Will you admit that Unions are, in part, to blame for production moving overseas or not?

For the record, I am not fond of or support multi million dollar salaries, free agent CEO's, or running companies based on quarterly earnings reports, but for heavens sakes, we have to be able to narrow topics enough to discuss them.

Repeating the treason lobby mantra over and over is not productive or help make your case either.
681 posted on 01/04/2006 2:36:48 PM PST by Andrewksu
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