[Havoc]

You keep quoting inaccurate figures.

No, I keep quoting figures I know. But forgive me if there is a higher "factory" labor rate that cost a penny less than a coffee refill at a local convenience store here. How astonishing is that - that we could be so far off the rate as to argue that people making less than a dollar an hour are killing us because we make more than a dollar an hour on average. But, 60 cents is more like 2.69 per hour in our terms so our 5.53 must be like 60.00 an hour in their terms. Amazing how absurd it gets when you play with the numbers as an attempt to handwring and beg points of contention that don't help you any - isn't it.

[Andrewksu]

Sorry, I'll see if I can over look the facts that are 7 times greater than your figures. If I make $50k in western Kansas, I am at the top of the heap, same dollars in New York means I am eating Ramen Noodles.

More importantly, what are your views on the grossly overpaid union labor in relation to only other US Jobs. A Colonel in the Army makes about $78k and a licensed architect makes about $62k. I wonder if they guy driving a forklift, making $75-100, produces the revenue of managing architect? Somethings gotta give man!