[daviddennis]

I apologise. The comment about social diseases was for the other fellow I was replying to in the same message. It in no way applies to you or your arguments.

I think of treason as taking up arms and attacking my country. I'm obviously not doing that. Treason could also be spying for another country, or giving away secrets to one. I'm not doing that, either.

If treason is buying imported products, how about my Apple PowerBook G4? I just got it and it cost over $2,000. It was designed by Apple in California, but made in China. So I've given money to the evil Communists. I didn't particularly intend to do this, but I don't think there's a laptop maker on the planet that isn't in China now.

Intel microprocessors are made in Singapore. Memory chips are made in Singapore, Taiwan and South Korea. Dell laptops are made in China, too, probably in the same plant as my new PowerBook.

So it looks like you should put everyone in the computer manufacturing business in the US straight in the electric chair, because they sure didn't hire many American assembly line workers.

Treason, bloody treason! Off to the electric chair with them all!

Yes?

And if not, why should I not be free to do the same thing they're doing?

D

[Havoc]

I think of treason as taking up arms and attacking my country. Well, I'm sure the Rosenbergs did too. As it happens, they never picked up arms and attacked the country. Amazingly, many of the people tried for treason, kicked out of the US, etc didn't take up arms against the country. You might look into some of Lincoln's doings with regard to traitors. It isn't an undefineable sum. Nor is it unclear. Treason is betrayal. And most have a pretty good gut instinct of what betrayal is.. even when they handwring publicly after the fact.