[Travis McGee]

I'm sure then they'd be glad we had those ships and subs, to help protect their arse, as they have zip for a military, and will have to depend on the good nature of others to protect them while they remain their goody two shoes pacifistic selves.

The Kiwis got rid of all of their fighter jets, and have ZIP for air defense. They truly are pacifist yoyos who must believe in good karma and the love of their fellow man for protection. They even have to beg rides to get their few peacekeeping troops anywhere.

NZ getting angry with Japan reminds me of The Mouse That Roared. What are they going to do about it? Throw a hissy fit at the UN?

[DieHard the Hunter]

> The Kiwis got rid of all of their fighter jets, and have ZIP for air defense. They truly are pacifist yoyos who must believe in good karma and the love of their fellow man for protection.

Hey Bozo. Not all of us were in favor of that decision: I certainly was not. And when we get a proper Conservative government back in place in Wellington, doubtless that decision will be reversed.

Are you always this offensive and objectionable, or have I just picked a lucky day?