Well, I can't disagree with anything you've said. I think there is disagreement among experts (which I am not) about the legality of what the President did. So, I think that is probably all we disagree about.
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according to the opponents, it was good enough for Carter, it was good enough for Clinton, both dims. But it's not good enough for Bush, a republican. Partisan BS with capital letters. imo.
Thanks.
This thread was about rights, in general, being lost and not just the phone taps. I don't really have a problem with intercepting incoming international calls but haven't argued for or against them. Some of the arguments about them being done previously by other presidents don't really impress me though.
I just think that we need to stick to our game plan in what America great and free. To ignore the rules when attacked causes us to lose focus and brings about the consternation that we are part of here.
Not just in this war, but in general, the government seems to focus too much scrutiny on Americans. We are not the enemy, but more and more we have to justify our existence and actions to some bureaucrat.
We, the people, are the repository of power in this country, not the government. They have been entrusted to do a job and been delegated certain limited and defined powers. Whenever they exceed that authority, no matter how worthy the cause or how pressing the need, it's a concern to a lot of us.
It's the slippery slope. We didn't/won't/can't lose our rights all at once. That would lead to another revolution, hopefully. It starts with the 'reasonable restriction' arguments. This gun. That type of ammo. No cigarettes on short flights to no smoking in bars. That's why I posted the quote early on in this thread. We are supposed to react at attempts to limit our liberty if we want to keep it.
You ever hear that without love, a house is just a house, but with love, it's a home? Well, America is more than a country or a place on the map. It's an idea too, actually a brilliant experiment in individual liberty. And it's that idea that's worth defending as well as that place on the map. Without that liberty, America is nothing special. It's just a place on the map.