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Really, you previous statement: I just don't believe it's worth giving our freedom up for..

and now you're saying:Our freedoms are worth fighting for, that's why we shouldn't just give them away.

Which is it? You are on both sides of the argument. You can't be debated with because you are arguing both sides.

The point is I'm proud of my country, and I'm proud to be free,

In a theoretical war, and that's what we re talking about here, what good are freedoms when your enemy doesn't believe in freedoms? In that kind of war it's a fight of civilizations, theirs or ours. I choose ours. In our world rights can be regained and reinstated. In their world, it's obedience or death.

Have you even thought about what could happen if Hildabeast has these powers if the lefties get back in power?? Then what if they decide they need to take our guns to keep us safe from terror too?...

Americans will never lose the 2nd amendment. There would be a civil war first I believe. Especially if it's the hildabeast trying to take them. As far as she becoming president...she isn't going to become president.

[conservativehoney]

I made myself very clear... If we give up our freedom, we are no longer free. Period. It isn't worth giving up the freedom we enjoy now, for the new definition of "freedom" down the road. It isn't worth it. The terrorists hate us for our freedom..Why give them what they want, and make ourselves less free?? I've asked you that question now on several occasions, and you still have not answered. Let me make my position even clearer....It is not worth giving up our freedom to be safer. It isn't worth the cost of our freedom. I will pay any price to maintain my freedom, because there is nothing out there more precious to me than being free. I will not let the terrorist win by giving them what they want..If you give up any freedom, you're by definition less free. It isn't worth the cost.

[Dan Evans]

In a theoretical war, and that's what we re talking about here, what good are freedoms when your enemy doesn't believe in freedoms?

That's why we are strong and they are weak. Freedom creates free enterprise which creates wealth that we need to create a strong military. They have to use box-cutters.

In our world rights can be regained and reinstated.

Don't that for granted. If we lose enough of our rights, we may never regain them because we won't have the freedom to do it.

Americans will never lose the 2nd amendment.

Some already have. In New York City and some other big cities.

As far as she becoming president...she isn't going to become president.

How about Al Gore? He came within a few votes of becoming president.