Posted on 12/31/2005 5:35:13 PM PST by Coleus
I certainly agree with that. If people were to convert most of these useless universities to schools that included actual hands on experience, it would be better. I agree that pointless courses such as art and religion are best studied by one's own and on one's own time, not as part of a required curriculum. It's a complete waste and will not pay bills in the event of an economic catastrophe.
I don't mind colleges and Universities having courses in art, religion, or other quality of life topics. But those should be a minor part of the education.
Most education should lead toward a profession that will increase our economy, and give the student a self-sufficient life-style.
With regards to no-fault divorce, I would like to see Covenant Marriage laws in every state, where men and women could be legally wed under the terms of Covenant Marriage, i.e. real marriage in contrast to what exists otherwise.
True, and the effect on fatherless girls is equally profound.
Not sure here but it sounds like you'd have this be voluntary, where some couples could choose to be under covenant while others could be under the rules we have now. If that is the case I disagree. All marriage should be till death do us part except in the case of proven abuse, abandonment or adultery with the guilty party losing everything. Additionally, those who had no official marriage (one man to one woman of course) would have none of the benefits thereof.
People need to understand that marriage is a binding contract until they die so they had better be sure and they had better work hard to make it good. This would work wonders on the strength of the family. Sure the marriage rate would decrease temporarily but I'm sure it would increase again as society returns to the accepted norms that we had for centuries. One man married to one woman raising children together.
Lets see if I follow this correctly. Speekinout believes that people should be able to negotiate a salary with their employer and if they don't get a satisfactory one they should be free to seek employment elsewhere and you think he's bad for that?
What did I miss? Men and women have been paid the same in the same jobs for years. There's no company with the balls to face the unending legal challenges (which they will certainly lose) to discriminate in pay based on sex for the same job.
What do you miss?
"Probably. Just as there have been many cases where women have "slept their way to the top". "
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"There's no company with the balls to face the unending legal challenges..."
Sure there is! If employees are not allowed to discuss their rate of pay with other employees, who's to know if they're being underpaid?
speekinout->Probably. Just as there have been many cases where women have "slept their way to the top".
Looking at the whole exchange I still don't see what got you upset. You made a statement of fact (there have been old boys networks keeping women underpaid) and he agreed and replied with another statement of fact (there have been women who've slept their way to the top). Both these statements are provable (I know several women who are where they are ONLY because they slept their way there or filed EEO complaints after seducing the boss)
Small sample bias.
My courses average about 80% male.
And men generally outperform the women.
But my courses relate to a male-dominated industry.
I work in Aerospace, some brilliant females work here, but the ratio is still about 7 males for every female.
you->there certainly have been plenty of cases in this country where old boy networks serve to keep women underpaid and under-promoted."
Wrong! That was quote from the article.
Not at all. It bothers my sense of justice however. But that's not a problem as long as they don't whine about good old boy networks. I'm a huge believer that EEO laws are unconstitutional as they deny the owners of the property (the company in this case) their right to deal with their property as they see fit. If they see fit to hire a slut because she's a slut then they deserve the employee they get.
Obviously the bosses in question were suckered...but they must've enjoyed their experience.
Some have, some haven't. One guy here had his life destroyed because after the slut seduced him she reported it as an eeo violation because he didn't come through with the promotion she thoughts she would get in a suitable time frame. Utter stupidity on his part but cruel viciousness on hers
So I still don't understand what your problem with Speekinout was.
Denigrating terms such as "slut" really don't further your cause or endear you to anyone.
If persons (male or female) wish to engage in immoral conduct, then they must own up to the ramifications and/or responsibility of their actions.
A lot of innocent people suffer at the hands of narrow-minded, ruthless, greedy, power mongers who don't give a rip about the Golden Rule and would rather see you dead than admit any wrongdoing. Clintonistas is a classic example that many in the corporate world see as the road to success.
If she sleeps around she's a slut. You want me to lie to make it sound better? Sorry. I just won't do that.
If persons (male or female) wish to engage in immoral conduct, then they must own up to the ramifications and/or responsibility of their actions.
Exactly correct. Sleep your way to the top, get labelled a slut. (although the penalties should be far worse)
A lot of innocent people suffer at the hands of narrow-minded, ruthless, greedy, power mongers who don't give a rip about the Golden Rule and would rather see you dead than admit any wrongdoing. Clintonistas is a classic example that many some in the corporate world see as the road to success.
While this is true (as modified) I have no idea how this relates to the discussion at hand or why you got upset at speekinout.
"Funny... the femilezis got what the wanted... NOW--- they don't want it!!!!!!
The chickens have come home to roost!!!!"
I'm not a feminazi and I never wanted this. I hate social engineers.
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