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To: metmom

"There is no such thing as neutrality when it comes to the matter of religion."

Correct.

" Everyone has a world view or belief system and removing any mention of God from it is imposing someone's belief system on another."

Correct.

" Christianity, Judiaism and Islam all have their foundation in the OT and theoretically, the same God."

Arguable, but basically true.

" Why should the vast majority bow to the wishes of a few? Maintaining neutrality is not done by removing all references to God because that is an action in favor of one point of view; it is not neutral when action is taken."

Indeed, the Christian view of the schools is that it is hostile to

Those who disagree with that claim fail to note that the NEUTRAL VIEW IS TO PRESENT BOTH SIDES. How can we talk about being 'neutral' with respect to religion if we cant talk about it at all? That is not 'neutral' but from an education perspective is hostile.

Again, the problem arises from the claim by The only 'problem' is that you are not to force one belief system on kids. So either (a) teach all viewpoints, (b) teach no viewpoints or (c) make the teaching itself voluntary and customized to each child.

The secularists that only secularism can 'cure' the problem of diverse religious backgrounds in a classroom. Poppycock. "b" is not the best answer! It is the answer that leaves the students most ignorant since it fails to teach in the area at all.

Neither is "a" the best answer, of force-feeding multiculturalism to kids as the way of giving them everything. It undermines *our* culture.

THE BEST SOLUTION IS SCHOOL CHOICE - (c). There is no other solution that gives parents and student the education they need and deserve.

You can see why multiculturalists and secularists are adamantly opposed to school choice, now. For right now, 90% of American schoolchildren are a captive audience to their pedagogy.


232 posted on 01/01/2006 10:20:11 PM PST by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/)
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To: WOSG
Those who disagree with that claim fail to note that the NEUTRAL VIEW IS TO PRESENT BOTH SIDES. How can we talk about being 'neutral' with respect to religion if we cant talk about it at all? That is not 'neutral' but from an education perspective is hostile.

It's not neutral to present in a natural science class the supernatural as an alternative. Teaching Creation Biology, Creation Geology, or Creation Astronomy utterly undermines the teaching of the sciences, and would be an establishment of religion.

Neither is "a" the best answer, of force-feeding multiculturalism to kids as the way of giving them everything. It undermines *our* culture.
THE BEST SOLUTION IS SCHOOL CHOICE - (c). There is no other solution that gives parents and student the education they need and deserve.
You can see why multiculturalists and secularists are adamantly opposed to school choice, now.

The left does want ideological control over our children; but there is also the NEA union jobs, the feeding of the NEA establishment, and the provision of shock troops and massive funds for the Democratic party; and the powerful lobbying power over legislation that the NEA enjoys. This will be a tough nut to crack.

As far as vouchers...I wouldn't be overly upset about voucher money going to religously-oriented schools...except in the UK the government has allowed Muslims to have their own publicly funded schools...schools of hate and subversion. I don't want to fund the training of generations of Hardiest Muslims. If we could forbid the teaching of every bit of Muslim hate ...but they would do it anyway, wouldn't they?

I like the approach of the Alliance for the Desperation of School and State...no government support for school...and stop collecting the taxes that paid for those schools so that people can afford to pay for their own schools; and for those too poor to pay full boat, others will have the funds to voluntarily help them.

251 posted on 01/02/2006 9:07:11 PM PST by MRMEAN (Better living through nuclear explosives)
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