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They'd take Halifax (then we'd kill Kenny) [U.S. invasion plans for Canada]
The Globe and Mail ^ | 12/31/05 | SHAWN MCCARTHY

Posted on 12/31/2005 11:02:13 AM PST by doc30

They'd take Halifax (then we'd kill Kenny)

By SHAWN MCCARTHY Saturday, December 31, 2005 Posted at 10:00 AM EST From Saturday's Globe and Mail

NEW YORK — We called their President a moron, and they called us the "retarded cousin." Their ambassador warned about the repercussions of aggressive rhetoric, and our Prime Minister aggressively asserted we will not be "dictated to."

In another age -- or in a Marx Brothers movie -- the escalation of insults and diplomatic contretemps could lead to only one thing: "Of course you know," Groucho famously intoned, "this means war."

It was one of a series of such contingency plans produced in the late 1920s. Canada, identified as Crimson, would be invaded to prevent the Britons from using it as a staging ground to attack the United States.

But having successfully captured Canada, the military planners had no intention of giving it up. "Blue [the Americans'] intentions are to hold in perpetuity all CRIMSON and RED territory gained," they wrote in an appendix.

The plan was withdrawn in 1939, declassified in 1974 and had gone largely unnoticed in a grey box at the National Archives until The Post, echoing the call-to-arms one hears from the drum-bangers at Fox News and elsewhere, resuscitated it under the headline, "Raiding the icebox."

The Post writer helpfully noted the presence of a potential fifth column in the Americans' midst, and chortled at the prospect of Celine Dion and Mike Myers being carted off to Guantanamo Bay in orange jumpsuits.

Canadian officials, predictably, refused to take seriously the report of a 75-year-old U.S. invasion plan.

"We found it amusing, and we'll just have to make sure that our plans are up to date as well," laughed Jasmine Panthaky, a spokeswoman for the Canadian embassy in Washington.

"From time to time, this thing does come up. I guess it's one of those curiosities in the relationship, given that we've been in the news a fair bit. . . . This is just a question of something that has resonance at a time when Canada is receiving its 15 minutes of fame."

Clearly, there are some U.S. radar screens you'd rather not be on.

Having once promised to repair a strained relationship, Prime Minister Paul Martin has apparently decided that an election campaign is a good time to chide the Bush administration for its failings. The U.S. ambassador to Canada, David Wilkins, responded in kind, urging the Prime Minister to cool the rhetoric or face repercussions -- a message to which Mr. Martin responded like a big-league slugger hitting a batting-practice lob over the fence.

The professional stirrers of strife on U.S. cable channels briefly focused on Canada and didn't like want they saw. MSNBC's Tucker Carlson said that all the intelligent Canadians had long since moved to New York and likened the country to a "retarded cousin." On Fox News, where embattled anger is the abiding emotion, talk show host Neil Cavuto said Canadians had "gotten too big for their britches" and may soon be an enemy of the United States.

Which brings us back to that 1930s-era invasion plan.

It starts with a seaborne assault on Halifax to cut Canada off from its British ally. A later version, approved in 1935, allowed for first-strike use of poison gas and strategic bombing of the city, if necessary.

It also posits that the U.S. invading forces take out Niagara Falls, seize Sudbury's strategic nickel mines, capture Winnipeg as the critical east-west rail juncture and attack Vancouver to deprive the British of a West Coast maritime base.

The 94-page document is rather long on geographic information -- important ports, main industries, transportation links -- and on published assessments of Canadian military strength. But it is rather skimpy on tactical details of a theoretical invasion.

Canada had its own plan, written nine years earlier, to counter a U.S. attack by invading the northern United States.

Likely, few Americans have spent time worrying about a Canadian invasion, other than in comedy clubs.

But the existence of War Plan - Red fed the imaginations of those Canadians who worried about the world's longest undefended border.

They believed that the Americans had always had a covetous view of their resource-rich country, and that the United States was always poised to invade if the opportunity arose.

The chief proponent of the invasion theorists is Floyd Rudmin, a U.S.-born, former Queen's University social psychology professor who has since decamped to the University of Tromso in Norway.

In the early 1990s, Prof. Rudmin wrote several articles -- much amplified in the Toronto Star -- on the U.S. expansion of Fort Drum in northern New York, arguing that the Americans were preparing to intervene if Canada experienced serious instability as a result of a Quebec secessionist movement.

Prof. Rudmin was critical of what he dubbed "the blind eye perspective" that Canadians maintained toward what he saw as obvious U.S. hostility toward its northern neighbour.

But as The Post noted, Canadians can probably relax for the foreseeable future, despite the bluster from the pundits. The U.S. military is otherwise occupied at the moment. Or are they just practising?

Battle plans

U.S. Joint Army and Navy

Basic War Plan -- Red

Key strategies

Capture Halifax to block British reinforcements

Seize key Winnipeg rail junction

Cut power by assault on Niagara Falls

March from Michigan to Sudbury nickel mines

Blockade both coasts

Use secret airbases to control airspace over Ontario

Victory

U.S. annexes captured territory

Canadian Defence

Scheme No. 1

Key strategies

Pre-emptive strikes from sea to sea

On word of U.S. invasion plan, Canadian forces would move to capture Spokane, Great Falls, Minneapolis, Buffalo, Albany and parts of Maine.

In face of U.S. counterattack, Canadian forces would retreat, blowing up bridges and railways, buying time until reinforcements from Britain could arrive.

Victory

Canada keeps Alaska

Perhaps as a public service to their side, The Washington Post yesterday dusted off a 75-year-old U.S. plan to invade Canada, offering it as a contrast to the situation in Iraq, where, it suggested, there was no plan.

First approved in 1930, Joint Army and Navy Basic War Plan - Red was drawn up to defend the United States in the event of war with Britain.


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: attack; canada; invasion; war
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To: frankjr

I think the Tories should counter by saying, "Yes, these plans are ancient, moreover the US doesn't need any plans today other than `Waltz right in.' given the state the Liberals have left our military."


81 posted on 01/01/2006 9:02:14 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: Vaquero
On word of U.S. invasion plan, Canadian forces would move to capture Spokane, Great Falls, Minneapolis, Buffalo, Albany and parts of Maine.

And would be repulsed by a couple of boy scout troops and some drunken hunters.
82 posted on 01/01/2006 9:06:30 AM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: hippiechild
Do you really think it is ok to go around invading countries when there is no clear and present danger?

Just zot them! Zot them!!!

Oh, and welcome to FreeRepublic. I see you got a 2005 sign-on date at the very last minute.

83 posted on 01/01/2006 9:08:56 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: Kozak

talk about overkill....


84 posted on 01/01/2006 9:10:21 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert Heinlein)
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To: doc30

The chief proponent of the invasion theorists is Floyd Rudmin, a U.S.-born, former Queen's University social psychology professor who has since decamped to the University of Tromso in Norway.

85 posted on 01/01/2006 9:23:15 AM PST by x
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To: Oklahoma
Rather than invading Canada to incorporate them into the union, why not just give them Burlington, Boston, New York City, Buffalo, Detroit, Seattle and San Francisco? We could then turn greater LA into a United States protectorate and give them home rule. We turn both Canada and the US to the right in one stroke.

Yes, and after Mexico gets Texas and Oklahoma it will also move right.

86 posted on 01/01/2006 9:29:34 AM PST by x
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To: Vaquero

Rule number one of warfare, use overpowering force.(;-)


87 posted on 01/01/2006 9:31:31 AM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: wmileo
When the Liberals are victorious in the next election, they will use any
excuse to try to hurt the USA. In doing so, the Canadians
will only hurt themselves. The support of the USA is the
only reason why your poor excuse for a country still exists.

Wow, you win the prize for the dumbest, most ignorant illogical
I've heard so far.
Yah, Liberals are a pain in the ass, but the lind of stupidity
you come out with helps create Liberals.
I'm convinced that you made up the story about our kids giving
American kids a rough time about Iraq. Prove me wrong and I'll
apologize, but until then I'll think you're lying.
Tell us what you heard someone say that they heard from
someone else that our kids said to American kids.
If you can't tell us, then STFU about Canada, cause you ain't
earned the right to bash us..

88 posted on 01/01/2006 12:17:48 PM PST by CaptainCanada (A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away.)
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To: doc30

Fifty-Four Forty or Fight!


89 posted on 01/01/2006 12:24:59 PM PST by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: wmileo; Snowyman
"You mean Liberal Democrats are the only people who shop at
Walmart?"
The US is not threatened by folks who shop at Walmart.

What?, you don't understand the link between giving the
ChiComs several hundred $$BILLION per year in trade surpluses
and their ability to develop economic and military superpower
status?????
Wow, I didn't realize the U.S. public school system was THAT pathetic..

90 posted on 01/01/2006 12:30:48 PM PST by CaptainCanada (A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away.)
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To: CaptainCanada; wmileo

* 100 million people who go to Wal-Mart every week.
*$288 billion in annual sales make Wal-Mart's own economy bigger than nations like Sweden and Israel. "If Wal-Mart were an individual economy, it would rank as China's eighth-biggest trading partner, ahead of Russia, Australia and Canada," according to the spokesman for Wal-Mart China.
*Wal-Mart bought $18 billion worth of products from China in 2004.

Implications for Foreign Policy
Does all of this have implications for U.S. foreign policy? Of course. Just typing "wal-mart" into the search line on the U.S. State Department Web site returns a ton of references. They include documents on corporate responsibility and trade with Africa, India and other parts of the world.

It would be impossible for any government to ignore the needs of its largest private employer and largest importer. And, just to make sure they are heard, Wal-Mart makes regular conributions to political campaign funds.

The problems arise when the corporate interests conflict with national interests. Wal-Mart (like other businesses) benefit from illegal labor, but the government has an
interest in regulating immigration. The government has an interest in lowering the American trade deficit with China, but Wal-Mart has an interest in raising it.


"The US is not threatened by folks who shop at Walmart." If you can't figure it out ,well, that's your problem.

In the meantime,

Continue to support Walmart , Please , Like a lot of us who live in this poor excuse for a country, I own their stock :)

Actually I'm going to sell my American stocks , while the getting is good....


91 posted on 01/01/2006 2:48:10 PM PST by Snowyman
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