To: Youngman442002
Oh how ever will we survive???? The Chinese are buying 25 year old Russian ships!!!
4 posted on
12/31/2005 7:33:15 AM PST by
MNJohnnie
(We do not create terrorism by fighting the terrorists. We invite terrorism by ignoring them.--GWBush)
To: MNJohnnie
I don't dismiss the danger of these purchases so easily. If you find a way to empty the magazines of a Tico or similar, it then is a sitting target.
The Chinese would not be deliberately wasting their money. This purchase means something.
11 posted on
12/31/2005 7:39:38 AM PST by
Loud Mime
(Build the Border Wall - Enforce the Law)
To: MNJohnnie
The Chinese are buying 25 year old Russian ships...equipped with nuclear technology that was given to them during then Clinton years.
To: MNJohnnie
Don't be so quick to dismiss them. If one of these destroyers gets within 120 miles of an American ship, they have a better than even chance of ripping it apart with its SS-N-22 Sunburn supersonic cruise missiles. With a speed somewhere between mach 2-3 and a warhead that weighs 320 kilograms (about 700 pounds), these waveskimmers will be extremely difficult to shoot down, even with AEGIS.
Yes, this would likely be a suicide mission for the ChiCom destroyer, but they would give up a pretty bloody nose first.
To: MNJohnnie
Probably capable of matching the KIdd class rubbish the US is supplying to Taiwan
23 posted on
12/31/2005 8:00:19 AM PST by
Oztrich Boy
(Free Speech is not for everyone, If you don't like it, then don't use it)
To: MNJohnnie
"These next two are newly built, and improved versions."
29 posted on
12/31/2005 8:17:26 AM PST by
Frank_Discussion
(May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
To: MNJohnnie
The Chinese are buying 25 year old Russian ships!!!Well done! How long have you been a red chinese agent?
"These next two are newly built "
39 posted on
12/31/2005 9:15:13 AM PST by
PAR35
To: MNJohnnie
Funny, they look like the ships that were afloat when I was in the navy twenty years ago.
40 posted on
12/31/2005 9:34:06 AM PST by
Desron13
(If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
To: MNJohnnie
Oh how ever will we survive???? The Chinese are buying 25 year old Russian ships!!!*snicker* Im shaking! The quality and attention to detail that went into Russian and Soviet manufacturing is well documented......./rolling eyes with sarcasm..
To: MNJohnnie; TCats; Dundee; NY Attitude; JimRed; Stonewall Jackson; xkaydet65; Frank_Discussion; ...
Firstly,this article says precious little about these 2 new ships & the only details are those of the earlier ships.Whatever details have been released from other sources suggest different things-
1.These ships feature an improved propulsion system,though it's probably still steam turbines.It also has new RCS reducing features that the Russians introduced on the 'Talwar/Krivak-4' class frigates for the Indian navy ie. it will not be cluttered as the picture suggests.
2.The Chinese have reportedly signed up for a newer CIWS in place of the AK-630 guns.This is the 'Kashtan'system which is a naval variant of the Tunguska gun missile system.This will in theory atleast increase it's survivability.
3.The Chinese have also shown interest in newer variants of the SSN-22,with improved range & ECCM.Moreover,the 300 km range SSN-26 Yakhont is a possibility,though it's development with India,may dampen Chinese interest.The chances of it's new anti-ship missiles being vertically launched rather than being launched amidships is pretty high for obvious reasons.The Anti-aircraft & ASW fit may also be modernised.
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