[MNJohnnie]

Oh how ever will we survive???? The Chinese are buying 25 year old Russian ships!!!

[Loud Mime]

I don't dismiss the danger of these purchases so easily. If you find a way to empty the magazines of a Tico or similar, it then is a sitting target.

The Chinese would not be deliberately wasting their money. This purchase means something.

[NEPAConservative]

The Chinese are buying 25 year old Russian ships...equipped with nuclear technology that was given to them during then Clinton years.

[Stonewall Jackson]

Don't be so quick to dismiss them. If one of these destroyers gets within 120 miles of an American ship, they have a better than even chance of ripping it apart with its SS-N-22 Sunburn supersonic cruise missiles. With a speed somewhere between mach 2-3 and a warhead that weighs 320 kilograms (about 700 pounds), these waveskimmers will be extremely difficult to shoot down, even with AEGIS.

Yes, this would likely be a suicide mission for the ChiCom destroyer, but they would give up a pretty bloody nose first.

[Oztrich Boy]

Probably capable of matching the KIdd class rubbish the US is supplying to Taiwan

[Frank_Discussion]

"These next two are newly built, and improved versions."

[PAR35]

The Chinese are buying 25 year old Russian ships!!!

Well done! How long have you been a red chinese agent?

"These next two are newly built "

[Desron13]

Funny, they look like the ships that were afloat when I was in the navy twenty years ago.

[cardinal4]

Oh how ever will we survive???? The Chinese are buying 25 year old Russian ships!!!

*snicker* Im shaking! The quality and attention to detail that went into Russian and Soviet manufacturing is well documented......./rolling eyes with sarcasm..

[sukhoi-30mki]

Firstly,this article says precious little about these 2 new ships & the only details are those of the earlier ships.Whatever details have been released from other sources suggest different things-

1.These ships feature an improved propulsion system,though it's probably still steam turbines.It also has new RCS reducing features that the Russians introduced on the 'Talwar/Krivak-4' class frigates for the Indian navy ie. it will not be cluttered as the picture suggests.

2.The Chinese have reportedly signed up for a newer CIWS in place of the AK-630 guns.This is the 'Kashtan'system which is a naval variant of the Tunguska gun missile system.This will in theory atleast increase it's survivability.

3.The Chinese have also shown interest in newer variants of the SSN-22,with improved range & ECCM.Moreover,the 300 km range SSN-26 Yakhont is a possibility,though it's development with India,may dampen Chinese interest.The chances of it's new anti-ship missiles being vertically launched rather than being launched amidships is pretty high for obvious reasons.The Anti-aircraft & ASW fit may also be modernised.