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Leak in Domestic Spy Program Investigated [“ ...could reach high into the White House”]
Los Angeles Times ^ | December 31, 2005 | By Josh Meyer

Posted on 12/31/2005 5:05:34 AM PST by johnny7

The Justice Department inquiry could extend into all branches of the federal government

WASHINGTON — The Justice Department disclosed Friday that it was investigating who had leaked classified information about President Bush's top-secret domestic spying program — paving the way for a potentially contentious criminal probe that could reach high into the White House, Congress and the courts. Several U.S. officials familiar with the investigation — which is in its infancy — said it would be conducted by FBI agents trained in probing national security and counterintelligence matters.

The officials said the investigation would focus primarily on disclosures in the New York Times that Bush had authorized the National Security Agency to conduct surveillance on people in the U.S. without getting warrants from a special federal court established to approve them.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: doj; dojprobe; homelandsecurity; leaks; nsa; spying
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To: Strutt9

WOT - war on terror.


181 posted on 12/31/2005 10:33:49 AM PST by MNbelle
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To: atlaw

This 'Reach into the White House' line is so much boilerplate from the dems. They're desperate and they should be.


182 posted on 12/31/2005 10:33:57 AM PST by hershey
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To: Lizarde; Pukin Dog
As to the time when the investigation first started: note the ambiguity in the President's remarks (I presume it is moving forward=this investigation started before the NYTimes story: ...

The DoJ investigations are premised on a request, and the requests come from outside. The Plame investigation started with a request from CIA, where the CIA request was prompted by Novak's article.

Reports are that the NSA investigation was "instigated" by a request from the NSA. We don't know when that request was transmitted to the DoJ. Pukin Dog asserts that the investigation predates publication, based on inside information.

Would there be an arrest and prosecution if the story had not been published? I think that's a good question, because without publication, an arrest and prosecution would serve to publicize the existence of the program. That doesn't mean the investigation would wait, only that the results of the investigation would be closely held until if and when needed.

183 posted on 12/31/2005 10:42:28 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Steel Wolf
Now would be the time to explain to the American people that not only is this program legal, but that it's being run in a way that's not hurting anyone but Al Qaida.

I would go one step further. Tell the American people that if he had not authorized the NSA surveillance he would be derelict. And that would definitely be an impeachable offense.

184 posted on 12/31/2005 10:43:51 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("fake but accurate": NY Times)
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To: Inkie

You put it in a nutshell. 'It's quite clear that they want us to be attacked again. What's bad for the country is good for the Dems, in their heart of hearts.'


185 posted on 12/31/2005 10:45:36 AM PST by hershey
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To: Steel Wolf

Your post #26 should be mandatory reading for every conservative talk show host, commentator, writer, Republican member of Congress ( at least those that haven't already gone to the dark side ) the RNC and especially Scott McClellan at the White House.
McClellan would have never had the gravitas to say what Trent Duffy said yesterday.
In fact, Trent Duffy has been doing an awesome job while Scott McClellan is on vacation-if the WH had any PR savvy, they'd elevate Duffy and allow McClellan to resign to run his mother's campaign in Texas.


186 posted on 12/31/2005 10:52:58 AM PST by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Pukin Dog
The Rasmussen poll on this subject was devastating to the Dems. When a heavy majority of people believe that the President had the authority to authorize the spying, AND believe he SHOULD do it, the Dems have lost the issue.

It looks like Bush set them up like a Poker master, and now the tag of "weak on security" is tattooed on the Democrats for another 10-20 years.

..AGREED

188 posted on 12/31/2005 11:00:52 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("fake but accurate": NY Times)
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To: Pukin Dog
I can, but I wont. Lots of people read Free Republic, and not all of them are our friends.

That's understandable. Can you tell us a little more about the "Left is in a full scale panic over this" part? It sounds like such a heartwarming tale.

189 posted on 12/31/2005 11:11:55 AM PST by Tangerine Time Machine (Orange you glad it's not a lemon?)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

My letter to the Baltimore Sun, [associated with the LA Times] ---

Editor:
Calling the exposure of the NSA program monitoring communications to and from suspected al-Qaida members a leak, is like calling the flooding of New Orleans the results of a leak.

From the article by Josh Meyer "Leak of NSA Spying is Probed" in the Sun, Dec 31, 2005:

“The existence of the warrantless spying program has caused an uproar in Congress and among privacy experts, who said the Bush administration may have broken the law by intentionally bypassing the secret federal court that is supposed to oversee sensitive investigations involving suspected espionage and terrorism.”

Perhaps in the interest of completeness in reporting, the following from the mission statement of the National Security Agency, available on their website, should also be included:

“The Information Assurance mission provides the solutions, products, and services, and conducts defensive information operations, to achieve information assurance for information infrastructures critical to U.S. national security interests.”

While “privacy experts” may be concerned about the practices of NSA, I believe that the opinion of most American citizens is that our defense agencies SHOULD be attempting find out what enemies of our country are plotting against us. While our enemies are using our technology to harm us, it would seem that “privacy experts” want to stay in the Twentieth Century, ceding every advantage to those who live to kill us.

maica


190 posted on 12/31/2005 11:12:51 AM PST by maica (We are fighting the War for the Free World and the media is not on our side.)
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To: Lizarde
A request by NSA in itself would have to be investigated by DOJ to see if further investigation was necessary - that would take more than a couple of days IMO.

But it would be an investigation just the same. Given the high profile rebuke by President Bush, I can see the minions at NSA scrambling to make sure a proper request is before the DoJ, pronto.

There is no hint that the NSA knew of the leak before the NYT published), and the administration has said that it did not request the investigation, yet it was the administration that requested non-publication by the NYT.

I like to think the administration practices aggressive policing of leaks; and if it doesn, and is successful, there will be no public news of the policing.

But back to the timing of statup of this leak investigation, what are the ramifications either way? The damage is done, and honest prosecution will nail all of the people guilty of criminal activity in the leak. Meanwhile, the President is able to limit his information sharing to protect any additional secrets.

191 posted on 12/31/2005 11:17:11 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Inkie
"Agree completely. RockeTeller has the loosest lips ever."

For my money, I think the American Al Quaeda is Kerry. Consider the following:
A. Still thinks he should be POTUS.
B. Is a very hateful individual in a hate filled party.
C. This would not be his first treasonous act.
D. Let's face it...he's not the brightest bulb in the string
E. He is just pompous enough to think he'd get away with it.
192 posted on 12/31/2005 11:24:16 AM PST by AlphaOneAlpha
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To: bert
..Judge John Robertson....liberal stooge
193 posted on 12/31/2005 11:25:53 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("fake but accurate": NY Times)
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To: Miss Marple
Look at this pile of manure the LA Times is trying to sell.

IMO, calling this spin "manure" is way too kind.

194 posted on 12/31/2005 11:26:46 AM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Cboldt

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196 posted on 12/31/2005 11:32:34 AM PST by maica (We are fighting the War for the Free World and the media is not on our side.)
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To: Chode
the "Investigation" prolly started the same day the WhiteHouse learned about the leak and Slimes wanting to print the story... Indictments are Imminent.

From your keyboard to God's ears....

197 posted on 12/31/2005 11:32:42 AM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Chode
leak... they call this a LEAK??? last time there was a leak like this... Noah built hiself a boat!!!

Okay...be warned. Keep this up, and you'll owe me a new keyboard ;-)

198 posted on 12/31/2005 11:33:48 AM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: maica

Maybe someone on the same level as "deep Throat."--that would mean someone in the agency.


199 posted on 12/31/2005 11:34:52 AM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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