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" I do not discount allegory as a method to put information in form Humans can understand."

Allegory is the weakest of arguments. Unless you have some evidence to back up this *intelligent designer*, all the things human make will have no bearing AT ALL on whether there was a designer of the universe or a designer of life.

"Science is another way but which has shaped the evolution of society most?"

Science, not even close.

"ID is a science..so now we argue about it's roots."

ID is a philosophical/theological claim. It is not science.

"It's OK with many ID supporters to have Evolution taught in schools but the reverse is an anathema to you and your group."

That's because ID'ers don't give a hoot about science, and evolutionists do. Only science belongs in a science class.

"If ID is discredited with new evidence showing the creation of life by random actions or the creation of a new species by random effects so be it..but why have we no proof of either?"

Science doesn't deal in proof, it deals in evidence. There simply is no evidence for ID. It is untestable. There is no conceivable observation that could go against ID. It may be true, it may not. It's not a scientific claim, and has no business being in a science classroom.

"Science doesn't deal in proof, it deals in evidence. There simply is no evidence for ID. It is untestable. There is no conceivable observation that could go against ID. It may be true, it may not. It's not a scientific claim, and has no business being in a science classroom."
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well the information in DNA of early life was just produced by random chance..and as stated here that it is "simple" yet we have no one claiming to have duplicated this feat. As I have posted before.. DNA is information
this information was created, creation (per webster's dictionary the original bringing into existence of the Universe by G-D.). No evidence of a type of DNA has been found
which provides the information for a living organism that has not come from some preexisting life. none ..why have we not found this basic DNA in our environment?? where is it??
in deep space clouds, on asteroids, perhaps in volcano heated water?? or just in the minds of darwinists?