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Partial Ingredients For DNA And Protein Found Around Star
NASA via ScienceDaily.com ^ | 2005-12-30 | NA

Posted on 12/31/2005 1:32:58 AM PST by neverdem

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NASA "artist's concept"

Acetylene(C2H2) and hydrogen cyanide are two of the most basic, organic carbon molecules, slightly more complicated than methane and carbon dioxide.

1 posted on 12/31/2005 1:33:01 AM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem
I'm baffled at how they manage to see these things at such a distance.
2 posted on 12/31/2005 1:36:30 AM PST by Termite_Commander (Warning: Cynical Right-winger Ahead)
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To: Termite_Commander

Ever hear of a WAG?

I suspect this will be about a credible as the South Korean cloning experiments. Nonetheless, there will be evolutionists who will jump all over this and claim that this is proof of evolution.


3 posted on 12/31/2005 1:49:06 AM PST by connectthedots
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To: Termite_Commander

Spectroscopy.


4 posted on 12/31/2005 2:08:58 AM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: connectthedots

Cyanide is a deadly poison gas, but somehow the Darwinists think this is evidence of "life."


5 posted on 12/31/2005 2:29:10 AM PST by balch3
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To: PatrickHenry

ping


6 posted on 12/31/2005 2:33:03 AM PST by dread78645 (Sorry Mr. Franklin, We couldn't keep it.)
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To: neverdem

Holy Moly! God's backyard barbeque....cooking up a little life. Amazing.


7 posted on 12/31/2005 2:33:13 AM PST by hershey
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To: balch3
Cyanide is a deadly poison gas, but somehow the Darwinists think this is evidence of "life."

The article explained how these gases are precursors to DNA:

Acetylene and hydrogen cyanide link up together in the presence of water to form some of the chemical units of life's most essential compounds, DNA and protein. These chemical units are several of the 20 amino acids that make up protein and one of the four chemical bases that make up DNA.

8 posted on 12/31/2005 2:51:38 AM PST by Aracelis (Theistic Evolutionist - God did it, but used evolution)
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To: hershey
God's backyard barbeque....cooking up a little life. Amazing.

I agree, and I think God is a lot more powerful than most people give Him credit for...

9 posted on 12/31/2005 2:54:08 AM PST by Aracelis
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10 posted on 12/31/2005 2:54:45 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, common scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: All
A related thread from July: Cold Sugar in Space Provides Clue to the Molecular Origin of Life.
11 posted on 12/31/2005 3:22:36 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, common scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: Termite_Commander

If you squint just right...


12 posted on 12/31/2005 3:28:11 AM PST by thoughtomator (How to recognize the enemy: he says "peace" and means something entirely different)
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To: RadioAstronomer
From the article:
When the astronomers probed this star's disk with Spitzer's powerful infrared spectrometer instrument, they were surprised to find the molecular "barcodes" of large amounts of acetylene and hydrogen cyanide gases, as well as carbon dioxide gas. The team observed 100 similar young stars, but only one, IRS 46, showed unambiguous signs of the organic mix.

"The star's disk was oriented in just the right way to allow us to peer into it," said Lahuis.

It's confusing, at least to me. The first paragraph gives the impression that this star is the only one out of 100 which exhibited such gases. But then the next paragraph hints that this was the only star that they could really get a good look at. So what is it? Are these gases found in only 1% of young stars, or in all of them that we can observe?
13 posted on 12/31/2005 3:45:55 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, common scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: neverdem
"If you add hydrogen cyanide, acetylene and water together in a test tube and give them an appropriate surface on which to be concentrated and react, you'll get a slew of organic compounds including amino acids and a DNA purine base called adenine," said Dr. Geoffrey Blake of Caltech

Is this an actual experiment I can do? Then what do I do with it? What's the next step? At what point do I get to scream, "It's alive!!!!!!!"

Nevermind. I already know this experiment cannot be done because supposedly it takes billions of years and billions of chance occurances. And that 1000 monkeys typed a 1000 years and that's how Romeo and Juliet was really written.

No thank you.

14 posted on 12/31/2005 3:46:34 AM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: connectthedots

If a person was to say "I suspect this will be about a credible as the South Korean cloning experiments." everytime they read any sciecne article from now on, what do you suspect their % accuracy rate would be?


15 posted on 12/31/2005 4:07:38 AM PST by bobdsmith
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1
" Is this an actual experiment I can do?"

You? No. Scientists in a lab? Yes.

"What's the next step? At what point do I get to scream, "It's alive!!!!!!!"

Nobody's stopping you now. :)

"Nevermind. I already know this experiment cannot be done because supposedly it takes billions of years and billions of chance occurances."

You didn't read the article very well then, nor the paragraph you excerpted. The experiment is just this:

"If you add hydrogen cyanide, acetylene and water together in a test tube and give them an appropriate surface on which to be concentrated and react, you'll get a slew of organic compounds including amino acids and a DNA purine base called adenine," said Dr. Geoffrey Blake of Caltech"

The end result is organic compounds including amino acids and adenine. This type of thing has already been done. The article in NO way said that life was found, nor that it would be formed in this proposed experiment.
16 posted on 12/31/2005 4:14:01 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: neverdem
Partial Ingredients For DNA And Protein Found Around Star

I thought this was gonna be another Clintoon thread.

17 posted on 12/31/2005 4:28:51 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: bobdsmith
If a person was to say "I suspect this will be about a credible as the South Korean cloning experiments." everytime they read any sciecne article from now on, what do you suspect their % accuracy rate would be?

I was making a specific reference to only this particular article. I made no generalized statements about other 'science articles'. on that basis, your comment makes absolutely no sense and implies that I am taking a position that cannot be supported by what I actually said.

Your statement is typical of so many evolutionists. You read so much into so little, yet claim your beliefs are supported by the facts when the evidence simply isn't there.

18 posted on 12/31/2005 5:23:00 AM PST by connectthedots
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To: connectthedots
I was making a specific reference to only this particular article. I made no generalized statements about other 'science articles'.

I never said you did. I was pointing out that someone who did use that argument would tend to be wrong. Hence you are more likely to be wrong than right in this specific case.

19 posted on 12/31/2005 5:30:03 AM PST by bobdsmith
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To: balch3
Actually, oxygen is a metabolic poison as well.

But don't let that little fact get in your way.

L

20 posted on 12/31/2005 5:37:22 AM PST by Lurker (You don't let a pack of wolves into the house just because they're related to the family dog.)
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