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How the Anti-Evolution Debate Has Evolved
History News Network ^ | 20 December 2005 | Charles A. Israel

Posted on 12/30/2005 2:29:22 PM PST by PatrickHenry

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341 posted on 01/03/2006 10:01:27 AM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
No, but it would have been *not very interesting* if you had criticized the poster who ran away from any critique of his post, which is what this is all about.

It's no wonder we're not getting it... We have differing concepts of what we're discussing... What "this is all about" to me is you trying to discredit a poster's argument by saying he's posted it many times before. Which in my opinion is not a valid critique. You've just stated that you found it cowardly that he ran away. I never noticed that in your posts ~ #307 - #317, obviously an error in my comprehension being the soliloquy was posted at #305...

I tell you what, I'll agree with you that running away and VI for non abuse are cowardly, if you'll agree with me that posting the same thing over and over is not a valid logically flaw in argument.
342 posted on 01/03/2006 10:04:29 AM PST by darbymcgill
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To: darbymcgill
" This is just semantics and you know it.... We both recognize cowardice when we see it...."

I do at any rate.

" Running away from a post right away or putting someone who has handed you your hat on VI are both cowardly acts..."

No, ignoring someone who is a rude SOB is not cowardice, it's intelligence. I tried over and over to have an intelligent debate with the few I have ignored, and they resorted to ad hominem as their only argument. None ever handed me my hat, they never even tried to.

" When we VI someone, we COMPLETELY ignore them, including not posting to them in the first place.

Is there some conspiring to censor going on here? ;) (\tinfoil mode"

No. :)
343 posted on 01/03/2006 10:04:36 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
No, ignoring someone who is a rude SOB is not cowardice, it's intelligence. I tried over and over to have an intelligent debate with the few I have ignored, and they resorted to ad hominem as their only argument.

Agreed, I noted abuse as a valid consideration...

None ever handed me my hat, they never even tried to.

Indeed and I dare say that your rapier like repartee would have vanquished all challengers....

No. :)

No... indeed... ;)
344 posted on 01/03/2006 10:15:47 AM PST by darbymcgill
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

My post defends itself, and you must submit to it and learn from it.

Your posts defending evolution are wrong, and you know it deep inside.


345 posted on 01/03/2006 3:37:57 PM PST by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: RaceBannon
"My post defends itself, and you must submit to it and learn from it."

Yes Osama. Whatever you say.

"Your posts defending evolution are wrong, and you know it deep inside."

No. What I do know is that you are too much of a coward to answer any of my points. Because, deep down (not too deep though) you know you are full of crap. You've been exposed as a fraud, and can no more defend yourself than Michael Moore can put down a donut.

You ARE amusing though. :)
346 posted on 01/03/2006 3:42:07 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: PatrickHenry

"My post defends itself, and you must submit to it and learn from it."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1549524/posts?page=345#345

He's getting closer, don't you think?


347 posted on 01/03/2006 3:44:14 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: RaceBannon
Your posts defending evolution are wrong, and you know it deep inside.

Hehe. Nothing like delusion to keep one warm at night.

348 posted on 01/03/2006 3:47:04 PM PST by tortoise (All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

No, what is amusing is the total faith in a failed false science that supposedly intelligent people follow in lock step to, regardless of how many times their theories change to fit the dictum:THERE IS NO GOD!


349 posted on 01/03/2006 3:53:16 PM PST by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: RaceBannon

"No, what is amusing is the total faith in a failed false science that supposedly intelligent people follow in lock step to, regardless of how many times their theories change to fit the dictum:THERE IS NO GOD!"

Still nothing to answer any of my points. You are, if nothing else, consistently cowardly.

BTW, evolution does not say there is no God. Most people who believe in evolution also believe in a God. Just another of your errors. :)


350 posted on 01/03/2006 3:58:14 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: FormerLib
Evolution and perhaps you might add "its many problems, gaps, and blind alleys" is taught in the Science class and they learn about the Creator in Religion.

I am with you in the question: "Where, exactly, is the BIG FRIGGIN'DEAL, here?"

351 posted on 01/03/2006 4:08:38 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (Democrat vote fraud must be stopped. Hello? RNC?)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
He's getting closer, don't you think?

I gave up waiting for perfection, so I added the best of what was available in a short sentence. It's here:
THIS IS YOUR BRAIN ON CREATIONISM.

352 posted on 01/03/2006 4:32:38 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

I believe that the man/woman/boy or girl who is so intellectually vapid to not even consider Creation is afraid of God.

That kind of cowardice will determine your eternal destiny.

I am not afraid of answering you point by point because my original post still stands and is superior to anything you posted since.

I will not waste my time refuting, I will instead again ask you to consider the actual truth and the evidences for that truth:

(Gen 1:1 KJV) In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

(Gen 1:2 KJV) And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

(Gen 1:3 KJV) And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

(Gen 1:4 KJV) And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

(Gen 1:5 KJV) And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.


353 posted on 01/03/2006 5:26:10 PM PST by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: RaceBannon

"I believe that the man/woman/boy or girl who is so intellectually vapid to not even consider Creation is afraid of God.

That kind of cowardice will determine your eternal destiny."

Evolution does not have anything positive or negative to say about a creator.

"I will not waste my time refuting, I will instead again ask you to consider the actual truth and the evidences for that truth:"

I know you won't spend time refuting what I said, because you can't. You posted a lot of crap to me, then ran away when I called it for what it is. You are a coward, though you are an entertaining coward. Very amusing! :)


354 posted on 01/03/2006 5:30:30 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
By the way, Creationists are Bible believers who try to live according to the Bible in a righteous way.

Evolutionists have no moral authority to follow, and Hitler proved it by using evolution to justify his wicked theories.

So did Marx.

So did Engles.

So did Stalin.

So did Mao.

So did (insert name here)

NOT ONE DICTATOR ever used Bible Based Creationism to start/continue/advance any war or act of conquest.

Now, don't you admire the company you keep?

By the way, it was Creationists who developed Calculus, the very science that makes space exploration possible, you should thank Newton he wasn't a heathen evolutionist like Hitler or Mao or Stalin or Marx... Or Castro or Danny Ortega or Ho Chi Minh or Kim Il Sung...

Get it yet?

Your way of thinking has caused more death and decay than any other belief that calls itself science.

Not so for Creationism. Not ONE WAR was ever started because of someone's Bible Based Creationist belief.

And if you are intellectually honest, you would be forced to fall on your face and admit I am right about that.

THEN, start over, and read what I wrote.

You just might learn something.
355 posted on 01/03/2006 5:32:59 PM PST by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: RaceBannon
"By the way, Creationists are Bible believers who try to live according to the Bible in a righteous way."

Then why do they lie so much? I am referencing you.


" Evolutionists have no moral authority to follow, and Hitler proved it by using evolution to justify his wicked theories."

Hitler was a creationist. He spoke of the moral duty to preserve God's most special creation (the aryan race). He didn't mention Darwin. Most evolutionists (in the USA) follow Christ in moral matters. Learn some history.

" NOT ONE DICTATOR ever used Bible Based Creationism to start/continue/advance any war or act of conquest."

Except for Hitler, who specifically used the Christian God as his Creator.

" Not so for Creationism. Not ONE WAR was ever started because of someone's Bible Based Creationist belief."

No wars based on Christianity? Bwahahahahaha!!!!!!

Again, you are too much the coward to answer even ONE of the points I made. Par for the lying creationist course.
356 posted on 01/03/2006 5:39:44 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
So, since you lack reading comprehension, I never stated wars were never based on the Christian faith, I said they were never based on CREATIONIST BELIEFS

That proves you don't read, and that is most likely why you don't understand what I posted earlier, you just don't know how to read or read with any comprehension...

cuz, MILLIONS of people died to defend EVOLUTIONIST BASED IDEOLOGIES...Like Hitler, Mao, Stalin...

That is why people who hold your beliefs are dangerous to society, and your so-called science is false: it openly promotes murder, has frequently started wars, and openly demands killing for survival of the fittest, and falsely states that the nature of mankind can be changed through education and environment; all proven false with the collapse of the Soviet Union Alone...

And calling someone who is telling the truth a liar, that makes you insane.

It was nice talking to you, but you need to go back on your meds.

Does your doctor know you are outside?
357 posted on 01/03/2006 5:48:45 PM PST by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

Hitler was a CREATIONIST???

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH


Belief in Evolution drove Hitler to what the Nazi's did!!
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3836c4427871.htm

Belief in Evolution made Hitler do what he did
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a387abb210180.htm


358 posted on 01/03/2006 5:50:08 PM PST by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

Notice how it's parsed - no wars based on "Bible Based Christianity". Which is more or less true, if irrelevant - folks haven't tended to go to war over Genesis. They usually killed each other in the name of the New Testament, rather than the Old.


359 posted on 01/03/2006 5:50:41 PM PST by Senator Bedfellow
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To: Senator Bedfellow
Correction: "Bible Based Christianity Creationism"
360 posted on 01/03/2006 5:51:24 PM PST by Senator Bedfellow
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