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An Early Handicap of 2008
RealClearPolitics.com ^ | 12/28/2005 | Jay Cost

Posted on 12/30/2005 9:57:12 AM PST by SirLinksalot

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To: samtheman

Could I really make myself vote for Hillary? McCain is just the candidate to make me find out.


21 posted on 12/30/2005 10:30:25 AM PST by .cnI redruM (If you're gonna think, you might as well think big." - Donald Trump)
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To: .cnI redruM

Which one of the current horde of RATS wouldn't be a satan if he/she got power?


22 posted on 12/30/2005 10:30:46 AM PST by samtheman
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To: Mike Darancette; SirLinksalot
".....VP the GOP nomination would be hers for the asking......"

I agree completely.

My own reasoning with respect to her being an effective Conservative candidate is that 1) I don't know all her views on a wide-range of Conservative topics, and 2) she's never run for public office. While she may be adept at public speaking, I have no idea how she would fare against a MSM onslaught. Things CAN get heated out there! In this respect I'm thinking of Newt, who is a great thinker and speach-ifier, but who demonstrated an inability to handle a hostile Press, unlike Ronald Reagan. In addition, while great on the issue of Defense, I have no idea how she comes down on the other 95% of Conservative issues that are important.

I just cannot see her, nor would I vote for her, getting the Presidential nomination..........but a POTUS-in-Training (VPOTUS) would be something I'd heartily endorse.

23 posted on 12/30/2005 10:31:25 AM PST by DoctorMichael (The Fourth-Estate is a Fifth-Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: .cnI redruM
Could I really make myself vote for Hillary? McCain is just the candidate to make me find out.
I'd go 3rd party.
24 posted on 12/30/2005 10:31:46 AM PST by samtheman
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To: Graymatter

For you nitpickers, I know darn well Kennedy only had one child before the 1960 election!


25 posted on 12/30/2005 10:31:49 AM PST by Graymatter
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To: SirLinksalot
Their handicapper has a perfect (or near perfect) record.
A "must check" site during election time.
26 posted on 12/30/2005 10:33:45 AM PST by Scarchin (www.classdismissedblog.com.)
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To: SirLinksalot

The Gop will have several darkhorse candidates appear that are conservative and not as bland as Allen.Neither the Mayor or the POW have a chance.

Look for Saxby Chamblis or a conservative Gov.The election is 3 years from now.


27 posted on 12/30/2005 10:39:11 AM PST by Blessed
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To: samtheman
Who would the Dopertarians nominate vs. McCain/Hitlery
28 posted on 12/30/2005 10:42:09 AM PST by .cnI redruM (If you're gonna think, you might as well think big." - Donald Trump)
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To: .cnI redruM

I wouldn't vote dopertarian. I'd vote Constutition party, or maybe some other. Maybe even the Greens, to help give them false hope for the next election cycle.


29 posted on 12/30/2005 10:49:17 AM PST by samtheman
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To: DoctorMichael
but a POTUS-in-Training (VPOTUS) would be something I'd heartily endorse.

IMHO Rice as VP would be the only way she would win or even try for the '08 nomination.

30 posted on 12/30/2005 10:51:23 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: .cnI redruM
he is telegenic

Like it or not, this is probably the number one attribute required for a man to become president. Has been so since Kennedy and television. That is my worry about Allen. I've only seen him a couple of times, but there's something unappealing about his appearance. Can't put my finger on it yet. All this is not to say that it is smart to vote for the pretty face. It's juat a fact of American politics.

31 posted on 12/30/2005 10:59:32 AM PST by WVNan
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To: SirLinksalot
This article certainly proves that as a loser of both the presidential race in 1960 and the race for governor of California in 1962 that Richard Nixon was never elected President.

It likewise offers clear proof that by losing to Gerald Ford in the 1976 primary and Ford losing to Jimmy Carter in the general election, there was no way that Ronald Reagan could have won the 1980 nomination and go on to defeat Jimmy Carter. Since Carter beat Ford and Ford Beat Reagan there is no way Reagan won in 1980.. is there?

Come to think of it there is no way that Franklin Delano Roosevelt could have been elected president after being defeated for vice president in 1920.

How did Adlai Stevenson get the Democatic nomination twice? How did William Jennings Bryan get the Democratic nomination the third time after losing the two previous elections for president?

This article is at best a waste of bandwidth.

32 posted on 12/30/2005 11:41:23 AM PST by Common Tator
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To: Clemenza
9/11 saved Giussolini's career. Otherwise, he would be remembered as a corrupt RINO.

I TOTALLY disagree. Rudy was NOT corrupt, and he will always be known for turning NYC around- crime and all. He was the best mayor NYC has ever had.

33 posted on 12/30/2005 11:46:13 AM PST by NYC Republican
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To: .cnI redruM

Guiliani and McCain for GOP nominee would make me skip the President box or put a write-in for Great Cthuhlu or Nyarlathotep.


34 posted on 12/30/2005 11:47:33 AM PST by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: SirLinksalot
It is very difficult to make any interesting arguments about what will happen in 2008 this far out.

Wrong. It isn't "very difficult." It's out-and-out bullshit. Nobody knows for at least a year. Everybody wants to get into the act of being a big-shot prognosticator.

35 posted on 12/30/2005 11:52:02 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (© 2005, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: Clemenza
It will also be nice to see McCain release all of the dirt on Giuliani, exposing both men for the frauds that they are.

What could McCain bring out about Rudy that isn't known?

The womenizing?

The indictments of the leader of the liberal party?

The thefts of that backers son?

His police commishoners corruption?

His power struggles?

His endorsement of Cuomo in return for favors to the city?

Everyone knows this, and ignores it and he is still popular.

NYC would have re-elected him again if it could have, 9/11 or no 9/11.

36 posted on 12/30/2005 4:16:23 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Sonny M

Rudy is still a SCUMBAG who will not get past the primaries in the South.


37 posted on 12/30/2005 4:35:35 PM PST by Clemenza (Smartest words ever written by a Communist: "Show me the way to the next Whiskey Bar")
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To: Clemenza
Rudy is still a SCUMBAG who will not get past the primaries in the South.

While I like alot of things Rudy did as mayor, I wouldn't want him as President.

That said, I don't think he will even get to the south.

I see him losing Iowa and New Hampshire, and Michagan, ending his run and endorsing someone else, whomever promises to give him a cabinet spot.

I also don't think he will endorse McCain and he will use his clout with whomever he endorses to pound the democratic nominee (probably Hillary).

38 posted on 12/30/2005 4:57:07 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: SirLinksalot
A lot depends on the 06 mid-term elections. If the Dems win back control of Congress, Hillary is a sure bet to run for president. If she does run she will lose. However, I believe the Dems will get their fanny torn.

If this happens serious Democrat movers and shakers will realize that the socialist agenca must be put aside for a time, together with the present potential nominees to repair their loser image.

In that case Senator Hillary Clinton could not be nominated but she will broker the nomination because she controls the money and hence the party.

Dems will have to come up with some dark horse candidate, probably a mid-western governor or ex-governor who is perceived as a "moderate."

On the Republican side, especially if they pick up seats in the Congress in 06 they will have the luxury of picking from a pretty lone list of possibles including Dick Cheney, George Allen, J. C. Watts and many others.

My guess is that it will not be John McCain who could not be nominated. Condi Rice, the great white hope, might be nominated as Vice President but the country is not ready for a black woman president. (I would vote for her as president in a heartbeat.)

But what do I know?
39 posted on 12/30/2005 5:15:44 PM PST by R.W.Ratikal
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To: SirLinksalot

Donald Rumsfeld would make an excellent President. Known quantity, a lot of executive experience, connects with the voters, does not abide idiots and makes hamburgers out of them - what better to be desired? Besides, it would be fun to watch.


40 posted on 12/30/2005 5:19:21 PM PST by GSlob
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