Bernie Kerik is on Cavuto right now...
and he is STEAMED about these leaks.
He is being asked if HE knew about this surveillance program..and he said, YES...he also said that he has known about attacks that have been prevented by these surveillance operations...but not this particular one in the NYTimes..
BUT, he cannot speak specifically...since HE respects the need for national security.
I love Bernie Kerek. He does not mince words.