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UK to take up Russian Hindu cause
HindustanTimes.com ^ | December 29, 2005 | Nabanita Sircar

Posted on 12/29/2005 4:24:45 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

The campaign against the alleged harassment of Hindus in Russia by the Orthodox Church and the Mayor of Moscow is getting more intense in Britain.

Ashok Kumar, MP is launching the "Defend Russian Hindus Campaign" at the House of Commons in January.

There was umbrage here when it was learnt that Archbishop Nikon wrote a letter to the Mayor of Moscow urging him not to allow the construction of a Hindu temple in Moscow because according to him, Lord Krishna who is worshipped by the Hindu community was an "evil demon".

"Such untenable words in an age where interfaith harmony is the need of the day are nothing but an attempt to malign and persecute a faith community that teaches respect and freedom for every other faith community, " commented Ramesh Kallidai, Secretary General Hindu Forum of Britain, an umbrella organisation of most community groups in Britain.

The Defend Russian Hindus Campaign, launched by the Hindu Forum of Britain, Hindu Council UK, National Council of Hindu Temples UK, International Society for Krishna Consciousness, Vishwa Hindu Parishad UK, Hindu Council of Australia, Hindu American Foundation and many other worldwide Hindu organisations, aims to build awareness about the alleged persecution and discrimination against Russian Hindus by a corpus of the Russian Orthodox Church and the Mayor of Moscow, despite support from the Central Government.

There are over 100,000 Hindus in Russia. In Moscow alone, there are 5,000 Hindus of Indian origin and over 10,000 Hindus of Russian origin.

Two years ago the Mayor of Russia asked Hindus to vacate their temple in exchange for a piece of land on which they could build a bigger temple. After land was allocated to the Hindu temple, the original temple was demolished. The Russian Orthodox Church orchestrated mass protests against the allocation of land and started a misinformation campaign against Hindus in the media.

On October 30, 2005, after bowing down to pressure from the Orthodox Church, the Mayor of Moscow cancelled the land order and took away the piece of land given for the construction of the Hindu temple. Now, the 15,000 Hindus in Moscow have no place to worship. The consecrated Deities of Radha and Krishna will have no home, say the Hindu leaders.

Kallidai said around the time of India Prime Minister's state visit to Moscow to meet Russian President Putin, Archbishop Nikon, a leader of the Russian Orthodox Church, called the Hindu God, Lord Krishna an "evil demon, the personified power of hell opposing God", and "a livid lascivious youth".


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: greatbritain; hindus; india; luzhkov; russia; uk; unitedkingdom
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To: familyop

Any person that believes your "reasons" needs to study up on their Chruch History....The Council of Chalcedon would be a good place to start.


221 posted on 12/30/2005 6:36:00 PM PST by TexConfederate1861
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To: familyop

That is a ridiculous statement. The truth is the truth.
He believes it.
So do I.

If you don't, then that is your sad misfortune.


222 posted on 12/30/2005 6:38:29 PM PST by TexConfederate1861
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To: Lukasz

You don't EVEN want to get me started on Latin Heresy...
Don't even go there......


223 posted on 12/30/2005 6:41:16 PM PST by TexConfederate1861
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To: Kolokotronis

Brother:

I don't believe Hindus should be persecuted. However this Pagan must be answered....

His moniker: "Ghengis Khan" says it all.....

The Mongols were ancient enemies of Holy Mother Russia.
Seems they still are :)


224 posted on 12/30/2005 6:45:34 PM PST by TexConfederate1861
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To: CarrotAndStick; A. Pole
Christianity has been in India longer than it has been in Europe.

How do you figure? Saint Thomas, the Apostle, brought Christianity to India, however by that time it was also in Rome and the other centers of the Roman Empire.

225 posted on 12/30/2005 7:01:31 PM PST by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: TexConfederate1861
MUCH more welcome on this forum than a pagan Indian!

His religion does not make him our enemy. While I would like nothing better then to have him convert, the fire and brimestone approach doesn't work for the protestants and sure as hell isn't going to work for us.

The enemy here is a bunch of British socialists and the TGJ crew who want all of us fighting so we don't pay attention to their cheerleading of Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.

226 posted on 12/30/2005 7:08:15 PM PST by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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To: Gengis Khan
Thanks Gengis. Vivekananda is right. Of course the blind might take a while, but eventually even they will find their way.

As for the spew here, it is better (for me) to just ignore it. Some people truly don't want to know or understand. They purposefully choose ignorance.

227 posted on 12/30/2005 7:11:50 PM PST by ARridgerunner
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To: TexConfederate1861

"I don't believe Hindus should be persecuted. However this Pagan must be answered...."

Oh, I agree. I suppose I'd just do it a different way and its important to recognize that what we call "sporoi" in Greek, that is to say, seeds of The Truth, can be found in many beliefs, even those of pagans. I suspect that my overweaning Greek chauvinism is peeking through in my comments on this thread. Unlike the excerable Mohammedans, the Hindus have seldom (if ever) done anything to hurt Orthodoxy and never anything to hurt Greece.

"His moniker: "Ghengis Khan" says it all.....

The Mongols were ancient enemies of Holy Mother Russia.
Seems they still are :)"

Now THAT I did fail to notice...its that Greek chauvinism thing again! :)


228 posted on 12/30/2005 7:18:14 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: TexConfederate1861
"Any person that believes your "reasons" needs to study up on their Chruch History....The Council of Chalcedon would be a good place to start."

Your comment is not only presuming, pompous and funny, but that event is far too late for an informative starting point.
229 posted on 12/30/2005 7:20:59 PM PST by familyop ('Ow abou' uh spo' uh tea, Guvnuh?)
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To: familyop

Well, I disagree.


230 posted on 12/30/2005 8:11:29 PM PST by TexConfederate1861
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To: Hill of Tara
You vomited: "Perhaps Russia should guard it's borders more closely and start deporting the foreigners. They come to a Christian country and demand to build a temple on a site selected for a church? "The consecrated Deities of Radha and Krishna will have no home, say the Hindu leaders." Oh my, whatever shall we do?"

If you substituted "Jew" for "Hindu" in your sick and twisted posts, you would be labeled a rabid anti-semite. God have mercy on your hellish soul.

231 posted on 12/30/2005 9:23:12 PM PST by SECRET ASIAN MAN (Stupidity should be made a felony.)
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To: Lion in Winter

So then why not tell the Jews to go to Israel, you racist bastard?


232 posted on 12/30/2005 9:23:49 PM PST by SECRET ASIAN MAN (Stupidity should be made a felony.)
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To: Gengis Khan

What a bunch of uneducated pieces of sh*t.

Free Republic sure has changes since I started posting here 7 years ago.


233 posted on 12/30/2005 9:25:16 PM PST by SECRET ASIAN MAN (Stupidity should be made a felony.)
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To: dennisw
You wrote: "Hindus make very immigrants in the United States."

It's good to see you again dennisw from 4 years ago.

234 posted on 12/30/2005 9:27:06 PM PST by SECRET ASIAN MAN (Stupidity should be made a felony.)
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To: A. Pole
So what do you think about the KKK and other rabid white Christian barbaric gangs?

Surely they still exist too.

235 posted on 12/30/2005 9:28:24 PM PST by SECRET ASIAN MAN (Stupidity should be made a felony.)
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To: TexConfederate1861
You idiotically spewed: "Allow me to add some MORE....Russia is and has been a CHRISTIAN country for 1000 years. They do not have to give the Hindu Demon Worshippers any rights at all. At least THEY have the guts to stop pagans from dictating terms......"

Russia is Jewish. Get over yourself.

236 posted on 12/30/2005 9:29:57 PM PST by SECRET ASIAN MAN (Stupidity should be made a felony.)
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To: Wiz
Russia is backlashing against Indian citizens because of the recently close relations between the US and India.

But judging from the imbeciles posting here at FR with their vitriolic anti-Indian rhetoric, I really have to wonder what the purpose was.

Thank god none of you anti-Indian venemous haters have any real say or power in the way our government is run.

237 posted on 12/30/2005 9:32:03 PM PST by SECRET ASIAN MAN (Stupidity should be made a felony.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

Finally a voice of reason.


238 posted on 12/30/2005 9:33:52 PM PST by SECRET ASIAN MAN (Stupidity should be made a felony.)
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To: A. Pole
Do you support Turks? Was a Vienna battle in 1683 a mistake?

Who made a greater civilization progress since 1683? I dare to say that the Turks. Today they are more democratic that Russia ever was and this is just a beginning. I don’t even mention which above country is more friendly towards us, you know that very well.

Btw Putting the Turks in the same line as the Saudis is just stupid.

240 posted on 12/31/2005 3:14:12 AM PST by Lukasz
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