Posted on 12/29/2005 7:18:04 AM PST by Maneesh
MULTAN, Pakistan (AP) -- Nazir Ahmed appears calm and unrepentant as he recounts how he slit the throats of his three young daughters and their 25-year old stepsister to salvage his family's "honor" -- a crime that shocked Pakistan.
The 40-year old laborer, speaking to The Associated Press in police detention as he was being shifted to prison, confessed to just one regret -- that he didn't murder the stepsister's alleged lover, too. Hundreds of girls and women are murdered by male relatives each year in this conservative Islamic nation, and rights groups said Wednesday such "honor killings" will only stop when authorities get serious about punishing perpetrators.
The independent Human Rights Commission of Pakistan said that in more than half of such cases that make it to court, most end with cash settlements paid by relatives to the victims' families, although under a law passed last year, the minimum penalty is 10 years, the maximum death by hanging. Ahmed's apparent actions -- witnessed by his wife, Rehmat Bibi, as she cradled their 3-month-old son -- happened Friday night at their home in the cotton-growing village of Gago Mandi in eastern Punjab province. It is the latest of more than 260 such honor killings documented by the rights commission, mostly from media reports, during the first 11 months of 2005. Bibi recounted how she was awakened by a shriek as Ahmed put his hand to the mouth of his stepdaughter, Muqadas, and cut her throat with a machete. She said she looked on helplessly from the corner of the room as he then killed the three girls -- Bano, 8, Sumaira, 7, and Humaira, 4 -- pausing between the slayings to brandish the bloodstained knife at his wife, warning her not to intervene or raise alarm.
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CNN doesn't need a defense on this. "Conservative" means adhering to traditional values. "Liberal" means less traditional, modernizing, changing. CNN clearly put that Pakistan is a COSERVATIVE ISLAMIC country. It adheres to traditional Islamic values without wanting to change. Get over your conspiracy complex.
B....but this is their culture. We should honor it. Multiculturalism and all that. NOT!
"And how exactly does murdering 3 little girls uphold 'honor'?
Islam and honor are both mutually exclusive."
As someone who grew up in India I can explain this. In the ME, family honor is paramount and is essential to maaintain group think. Individual thought and going against the mainstream is strongly discouraged. If a girl is even found with a guy out in public before marriage, the whole family is black listed and is an outcast life becomes hell for them. The man of the house is then obligated to eliminate the source of the dishonor which is girls. It is insane and abhorrent from our point if view but in their world view it is the right thing to do. Meanwhile these same men can have multiple wives and mistresses (temporary wives) and that is permissible in Islam. It is the most horrendous religion for women and they have no rights at all.
"I wish that I get a chance to eliminate the boy she ran away with and set his home on fire."
I can relate to this, but not to the other murders.
Were they shocked when Daniel Pearl was beheaded in Pakistan?
And you're probably right. But a conservative Islamist is not the same as a Republican. To avoid being confused with someone who would commit honor killings, I just tell people when they ask my political persuasion that I am a conservaliberpublictarian. Oh, and I'm a Christian, and Christians don't kill their kids.
"Creep" yourself. I'm not the one lacking in understanding of basic terminology. Get thee to a dictionary.
This is just my take on it: Men in this sick culture don't have to behave in any civilized fashion, their "honor" is their women, so if they need to cleanse their honor all they have to do is say any failing they have is the fault of a woman in the family. Then they kill the woman to reclaim their honor. Handy, huh?
"Were they shocked when Daniel Pearl was beheaded in Pakistan?"
of course not, Daniel Pearl was a jew, the worst kind of infidel. Killing a jew by beheading puts you in the hall of fame of good behaviour for life.
I consider myself a conservative Christian
Are you a fundamentalist Christian? Had CNN used this term rather than conservative, they would have been damned for trying to link fundamentalist Islam with fundamentalist Christianity.
Sometimes a word is just a word and there is no intent behind it. LOL ... We should rather applaud CNN for bothering to announce the guy was an Ismalist at all. Usually that's the sort of inflammatory information they don't care to share with us easily exciteable viewers.
The primary sect of Islam in the United States is the Wahhabist strain of Islam. It just hasn't fully come out of the closet over here yet. I imagine they're watching everything going on in Australia very closely now. If the government and the PC police roll over for them look for the Wahhabis in this country to become very militant very quickly.
Yep, according to CNN only Islamists, Communists and Republicans can be conservatives.
"If the government and the PC police roll over for them look for the Wahhabis in this country to become very militant very quickly."
That's pretty much happening in the US right now. But look for red states to become even more militant than muz-scums.
"The primary sect of Islam in the United States is the Wahhabist strain of Islam. It just hasn't fully come out of the closet over here yet. I imagine they're watching everything going on in Australia very closely now. If the government and the PC police roll over for them look for the Wahhabis in this country to become very militant very quickly."
Very astute observation. The Wahabbi - Salafi movement has infiltrated US universities, media and the govt and they are just waiting for the right moment to take jihad to the next level. The vast majority of mulsims in the USA have no allegiance to this nation but only to Islam and the re-creation of the caliphate. The book "Future Jihad" by Walid Phares does an excellent job of explaining all this.
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