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To: rcocean
>>>>>>>"Wrong issue here, wrong thread."
What are you - the thread police?

Nah. I just had this weird notion of following a train of thought thru a thread. I started the thought with a protest that small businesses should NOT be tasked with enforcing federal immigration laws. That is the job of the fed, and that if they really wanted to do so, they have the data and the enforcement powers necessary to do so. The fact is that they don't WANT to do so, because they recognize illegals working here as a source of revenue. I then cited a quick calc on how much "free money" comes into the fed due to the willing hypocrisy of Social Security and the IRS.

As sure as sh!t attracts flies, some freeper felt duty bound to point out that the costs to us are greater than the revenue generated to the fed. I said that this was not the point at issue i.e. "Wrong issue here, wrong thread."

As far as being "thread police" I fear that my qualifications are suspect. I sometimes forget to laugh at the people who post here and get upset with them instead. It is a character flaw that gets me suspended sometimes, so my track record doesn't rise to the quals necessary for internet police. I deal with many heavy breathers here who are so damn stupid that they can't tell the difference between complete amnesty and no borders vs. liberal immigration and dual paths to legal status. As a result, I get a good deal of the kind of cranially eviscerated vapid accusations lke this gem "Frankly, I find your support of illegal activity disgusting."..... whoops, er, that was YOUR post. Oh well. Anyway, if you were one of the OTHER imbeciles who accuse me of various and sundry activities, I would respond that I do not "support illegal activity" but rather think there is more than one way to deal with the illegal activity that has gone on. If that one went by too quickly for you, let me know and I will try to type slower for you next time.

201 posted on 12/30/2005 8:40:22 AM PST by chronic_loser ((Handle provided free of charge as flame bait for the neurally vacant.))
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To: chronic_loser
small businesses should NOT be tasked with enforcing federal immigration laws

This is probably the greatest fallacy of them all. Employers need make nothing more than a simple phone call to Social Security. That's it, and that's definitely NOT law enforcement. Even the TIME that the call must be made will be taken off the employer's hands. HINT: It's when you hire a new person.

I hate when corrupt greedy employers whine that they aren't "police". Well, are they "phone talkers"? Of course they are. There can be no serious excuse for refusing to use the telephone, clearly, they just want the money saved with illegal labor.
204 posted on 12/30/2005 9:17:48 AM PST by starbase (Understanding Written Propaganda (click "starbase" to learn 22 manipulating tricks!!))
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To: chronic_loser
"As sure as sh!t attracts flies, some freeper felt duty bound to point out that the costs to us are greater than the revenue generated to the fed. I said that this was not the point at issue i.e. "Wrong issue here, wrong thread."

When you made an inane statement about the fed receiving a lousy $5 billion from illegal aliens you made it part of the discussion.

Didn't Bush increase federal spending on education to $560 billion dollars per year?

Where do you think that money's going?

How is it not pertinent to this discussion that illegal immigrants are a NET drain of 10's of billions of dollars on our federal and state Taxpayers?

Motivating illegal immigrants to return to their home countries will reduce the federal, state and local portions of our National Debt not just reduce the yearly deficit.

"I just had this weird notion of following a train of thought thru a thread. I started the thought with a protest that small businesses should NOT be tasked with enforcing federal immigration laws."

This statement is both inane and specious. I'd also have to agree with you that it's a little weird, too.

Small business is being tasked with following the law, U.S. laws against hiring illegal immigrants, same as a driver is tasked with following the traffic laws.

What employers are being asked to do is easy.

213 posted on 12/30/2005 11:07:06 AM PST by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity'. It's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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To: chronic_loser

As far as being "thread police" I fear that my qualifications are suspect. I sometimes forget to laugh at the people who post here and get upset with them instead. It is a character flaw that gets me suspended sometimes, so my track record doesn't rise to the quals necessary for internet police. I deal with many heavy breathers here who are so damn stupid that they can't tell the difference between complete amnesty and no borders vs. liberal immigration and dual paths to legal status. As a result, I get a good deal of the kind of cranially eviscerated vapid accusations lke this gem "Frankly, I find your support of illegal activity disgusting."..... whoops, er, that was YOUR post. Oh well. Anyway, if you were one of the OTHER imbeciles who accuse me of various and sundry activities, I would respond that I do not "support illegal activity" but rather think there is more than one way to deal with the illegal activity that has gone on. If that one went by too quickly for you, let me know and I will try to type slower for you next time.


This morning you were over charged with coffee. Now I suspect you are over charged with Tequila


254 posted on 12/30/2005 4:31:34 PM PST by Sterco
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