You have no clue as to my "greed" nor what percentage of our income we gave away last year, nor where my wife chooses to work, with whom, and at what pay to support our "greed." In fact, you know NOTHING about me, except that I hate the sanctimonious and unctious crap on Free Republic that hides behind border control (which I support), fence erection (which I also support), and national sovereignty (no borders = no country) to advocate some of the most hateful and xenophobic garbage I have ever seen. Not that it stops you or the rest of your frothing at the mouth crew here of accusing me of being: 1) A closet du plant (till they check how long I have been posting here 2)a "corporate shill" ( I don't even own a corp, my business is a sole proprietorship) 3) a "spic" "beaner" "wetback" or "mex" - scotch irish, sorry 4) a "liberal" - I was arguing for the free market and quoting von Mises before most of you here were even an ache in your father's crotch -- or some other idiocy.
I have genuine respect for many of the denizens of these threads, but they are oft shouted down by the pitchfork brigade, which I utterly despise. You can tell a pitchforker (if he puts down the flaming torch and stops storming the castle long enough to wipe the spittle off his chin) by the following:
1) he comprehends TWO words as a possible solution to the problem with illegals a) "Illegal" and b)"Deport"
2) the idea that relaxing immigration quotas might take the pressure off the border is a totally foreign concept to him
3) if you try to hint that the market might supply a stasis of labor and jobs, you are immediately branded a "corporate shill" who is out to "exploit" with the "slave labor" that illegals provide. the fact that we have probably close to 20 million illegals in the country and our unemployment rate is below 5% is considered to be "meaningless statistics" designed to hide the clear and obvious facts that the illegals are stealing American jobs.
4)If you hint that there MAY be other ways to punish border hoppers (fines and penalties), and that many of these people have established businesses, homes, connections, etc, so that it MIGHT be in our and their best interest to seek to allow someone a track to gain legal status, the witchdoctor in the crowd shrieks "AMNESTY ALERT!" and his eyes glaze over while he begins to chant in unison with the rest of the natives "ILLEGAL, DEPORT (uhnhh, uhnhh)"
5) If you ever mock a pitchforker, be prepared for the most innocent of rejoinders ("Who? ME? Racist?...., well, you know...., liberals call people racist."), with explanations that they are all just red white and blue patriots who love our dear country and that they are SHOCKED! SHOCKED I SAY! that you would insinuate that their motives are less than pure as freshly driven snow. Of course, your own motives are clear to all. You are clearly an exploiter of labor, a greedy bastard, a MECHA volunteer, a closet nephew of Vincente Fox, and more. The idea that you might actually support liberalization of the border because it is GOOD for us is so uncomprehendible to a pitchforker that they simply cannot grasp the concept.
It MUST be because of some ulterior motive, and if they just throw out enough asshat accusations, they think maybe they will hit on it and you will slink away in disgrace.
First of all, I have not seen any xenophobic comments on this thread whatsoever. Not everybody who believes in tighter border controls is white, or racist.
Second, if you truly believe in erecting a fence and enforcing immigration laws, why do you constantly attack people who argue for that very thing?
Thirdly, you can argue that millions of illegals is a good thing for this country, but you would be in the minority. This is a democracy, and in theory our policy should be detremined based on the will of the majority, not the beliefs of the elites.
What is a "pitchforker"? From what I can tell, a "pitchforker" is a patriot who will not compromise his/her principles, and one who believes in tough border security.
You probably do have a point that foreign workers do provide benefits to our economy. That is why I support a TEMPORARY guestworker program. If the President supports or puts forth a TEMPORARY worker program with with no path citizenship, for that would really defeat the point of a TEMPORARY program, I and many others would support it. However, I would only support it if it came with a real attempt at enforcement. That means build the fence, hire more BP agents, and start enforcing employer sanctions.