[PerConPat]

Are you for real? I officially give up. If you can can not see how a judge proceeding presiding over an impeachment trial has anything to do with the judiciary, we are both just waisting time.

I'm surprised you reacted in this fashion. Of course I'm for real, as are you. Your arguments have been clear, and I have not intentionally tried to twist anything you have posted. My point was to stress that charges involving impeachable offenses do not necessarily have to be brought or tried in the Judicial branch prior to, yes, a trial in the Senate. As I said before, we will not resolve our differing views; but I don't participate in these fora to "win," so I have enjoyed our debate.

[ndt]

Fair enough. I will have to postpone any further debate anyway, it's my wife birth day and I'm starting to get ugly looks for sitting on the computer so long. I think it is time to take her out for dinner :)