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Storms swell NorCal rivers to highest levels in seven years (Flood warnings, rivers swollen)
ap on Bakersfield Californian ^ | 12/28/05 | Don Thompson - ap

Posted on 12/28/2005 4:44:57 PM PST by NormsRevenge

SACRAMENTO (AP) - The first in what is expected to be a series of drenching winter storms has prompted flood warnings and swelled Northern California rivers to their highest levels in seven years.

Warnings went into effect across the northern half of the state after the first storm swept through Tuesday and Wednesday. Steady downpours and rising rivers led to an evacuation, scattered power outages, and flooded roads and parks. Water district officials in Sacramento closed a flood gate on the American River as a precaution.

"It's been several years since we've had this widespread of flooding, and we're not done," said Rob Hartman of the National Weather Service's California-Nevada River Forecast Center in Sacramento.

The last significant flooding in Northern California was during the El Nino year of 1998 and a year earlier, when three people died after levees collapsed north of Sacramento. The danger is lower this time because there was relatively little snow in the Sierra Nevada to be melted by the warm rains.

More storms are forecast to begin Friday and remain through the New Year's weekend. The next system is expected to spread farther south and bring the potential of mudslides, debris flows and flash floods in recently burned areas of Southern California by Saturday, Hartman said.

Hillsides already were giving way in some parts of Northern California, as the steady rain soaked ground that was saturated. In Modesto, a mudslide led to a pileup that killed a motorist on Monday. In Mendocino County, four homes near Fort Bragg were evacuated after a landslide Tuesday night.

Rivers were cresting from the Napa County wine country to the far northern coast, including the Russian, Navarro, Scott, Klamath and Eel rivers. They are expected to rise to flood stage periodically through the weekend without causing severe damage.

"We're getting an early start on the rain and snow season, which is good as long as we don't get flooding," said Don Strickland, a spokesman for the state Department of Water Resources.

The main concern is warm rains melting the early season snowpack in the Sierra, sending flood waters cascading out of the range and overwhelming the Central Valley's intricate system of dams, weirs and levees.

Housing developments have boomed in Central Valley flood plains in recent years, raising the stakes for water managers who try to empty downstream reservoirs before they overflow with runoff.

Federal and state water managers were releasing torrents of water at the Oroville and Folsom dams, but both reservoirs had plenty of capacity to handle additional runoff.

"We're in good shape," said Jeff McCracken, a spokesman for the U.S. Bureau of Reclamation. "The system's working everywhere it should. This is a wet storm, but there's not a lot of snow to melt like there was in '96-'97."

The northern Sierra had 226 percent of its normal precipitation for this time of year. Most has fallen as rain, although a weekend cold front is expected to bring snow. Wet, heavy snow at the highest elevations prompted an avalanche warning Tuesday and Wednesday on Mount Shasta, north of the Sierra in the Cascade Range.

The Sacramento River is expected to rise to 27 feet by the weekend, four feet below its flood level. That is still high enough to concern water managers, who plan to open a massive weir north of downtown and divert river water to a vast wetlands.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: floodwarnings; highestlevels; norcal; rivers; storms; swell; weather
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To: NormsRevenge
All North Coast Rivers are at flood stage. They are starting to move people to shelters from some low lying areas.

101 is closed at Confusion Hill south of Garberville due to a perennial slide area there. They will start a bypass across the Eel River next year and complete it in 2009. Two bridges and lots of dirt to move. The EIRs are done but lawsuits are expected.

We have had about 20" in the last two months. 3" in the last 36 hours. We could lose power or fiber optic cable at any time...

21 posted on 12/28/2005 5:57:20 PM PST by tubebender (You can't make Chicken Soup from Chicken Poop...)
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To: SierraWasp

Democratic Party Politics or Sierra Club and friends????


22 posted on 12/28/2005 6:02:01 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn

You would have to scrape their fingernails to find any difference...


23 posted on 12/28/2005 6:05:58 PM PST by tubebender (You can't make Chicken Soup from Chicken Poop...)
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To: Carry_Okie

Substantial? Really? Like give me a range of these "substantial" percentages, please... (Oh! And the pavement in NOT interminable so the incoming liquid reaches that "duff" and stuff in a relatively short distance with good grading and drainage, don'tcha think???


24 posted on 12/28/2005 6:07:55 PM PST by SierraWasp (EnvironMentalism... America's establishment of it's unconstitutional State Religion!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge
27 foot plus waves jacking on the patch...

http://cdip.ucsd.edu/?nav=recent⊂=nowcast&units=metric&tz=UTC&pub=public&map_stati=1,2,3


25 posted on 12/28/2005 6:11:01 PM PST by antaresequity ((PUSH 1 FOR ENGLISH, PUSH 2 TO BE DEPORTED))
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To: SierraWasp
Like give me a range of these "substantial" percentages, please...

I've seen vegetation cut peak flows in half.

And the pavement in NOT interminable so the incoming liquid reaches that "duff" and stuff in a relatively short distance with good grading and drainage, don'tcha think???

Typically pavement concentrates flows via drains and pipes while interrupting far less destructive sheet wash. That concentration does substantial damage, particularly downcutting. It also redirects flows and bypasses adsorption areas.

That problem can be mitigated somewhat via more modern drainage design in a manner similar to the way forest skid roads are now constructed, that is, if the engineer has a clue about how to use the lay of the land to reduce flow concentration (they usually don't). Liability for hydroplaning is one reason the designs abet landslides. Most drainage systems these days look as if they were designed by lawyers.

26 posted on 12/28/2005 6:15:10 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are REALLY stupid.)
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To: antaresequity; SierraWasp; tubebender; Grampa Dave; Dog Gone; sasquatch
D'y know why they call it "The Potato Patch"?

It's scary.

The reason is that when 30 foot waves come into a sand bar under 25 feet of water, you can see the rocks on the bottom.

They're white.

27 posted on 12/28/2005 6:18:26 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are REALLY stupid.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
Ya, well, those two, plus Friends of the River, plus the American River CONservancy, plus the commercial whitewater rafting corporations with all their lefty hefty friends swarming over the CA Sierran landscape like a pleague of incestuous locusts!!!

Carter got pist because CA went for Gerald R. Ford in the 1976 election and Governor Jerry (Mediteranian Fruit Fly) Brown whispered in Jimmah's ear at the behest of his rafting buddies to defund the dam on which 600+ million 1977 dollars were already poured into the 2/3rds complete project!!!

You can tell that I despise all these pukes, can't you?

28 posted on 12/28/2005 6:18:56 PM PST by SierraWasp (EnvironMentalism... America's establishment of it's unconstitutional State Religion!!!)
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To: antaresequity

Thanks for posting that link. Modern technology is a far cry from KHB-49. This gray-haired sea dog appreciates the update.

Love your tagline, too!


29 posted on 12/28/2005 6:19:11 PM PST by kilowhskey (Land of the free, because of the brave.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Why they be white? Are you talkin bout the out flow just as the wave crests?


30 posted on 12/28/2005 6:22:36 PM PST by SierraWasp (EnvironMentalism... America's establishment of it's unconstitutional State Religion!!!)
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To: SierraWasp
Why they be white?

Dunno. That's what I was told.

I sure as hell wouldn't want to be there to confirm it myself. That place is nasty even on a good day.

31 posted on 12/28/2005 6:25:48 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are REALLY stupid.)
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To: kilowhskey
That is an incredibly awesome resource if you spend anytime at all offshore in California...

An indispensable resource...

Here is another one...NowCast models for tides and currents....

http://sfports.wr.usgs.gov/

At this site you plot all sorts of data: currents, wind, gusts, tide heights....etc etc...


32 posted on 12/28/2005 6:34:03 PM PST by antaresequity ((PUSH 1 FOR ENGLISH, PUSH 2 TO BE DEPORTED))
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To: Carry_Okie
"Most drainage systems these days look as if they were designed by lawyers."

Actually, it's FEAR of allegators and litigators, don'tcha know?

I now realize that when you said that about duff and stuff that you were thinking of the absorbtion in somewhat natural areas while I was thinking of drainage/runoff in mass pad grading site complete with roofs, bare dirt and paved streets waiting for homeowners to come and roll out ye old NV sod!!!

One of the ideas that enthralls the militant GovernMental EnvironMental Nazis that convinced Arnold to create the Sierra-Nevada CONservancy is that the Sierra is a giant sponge and that if we'd quit all timber removal and other economic development, that we wouldn't need man-made flood control so that rafting could continue unabated.

This even though they beat down river banks like a bunch of city slicker cattle in a drunken stupor, oblivious to local landowner's rights and concerns!!!

33 posted on 12/28/2005 6:35:12 PM PST by SierraWasp (EnvironMentalism... America's establishment of it's unconstitutional State Religion!!!)
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To: kilowhskey

I like your tagline best!!!


34 posted on 12/28/2005 6:37:30 PM PST by SierraWasp (EnvironMentalism... America's establishment of it's unconstitutional State Religion!!!)
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To: Carry_Okie
Most drainage systems these days look as if they were designed by lawyers.

They are if you are talking about Cal-Trans. A friend is doing the engineering and EIRs for the culvert replacements for Salmon restoration and he explained to me that the legal dept has the final say on all projects because Cal-Trans self insures for liability and the legal beagles do the risk assessments...

35 posted on 12/28/2005 6:39:10 PM PST by tubebender (You can't make Chicken Soup from Chicken Poop...)
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To: tubebender
A friend is doing the engineering and EIRs for the culvert replacements for Salmon restoration and he explained to me that the legal dept has the final say on all projects because Cal-Trans self insures for liability and the legal beagles do the risk assessments...

And because of the cost, many roads don't get repaired, so they slide, causing... siltation in creeks.

The system is broken, but hey, the lawyers get full retirement on nearly full pay!

WASS

36 posted on 12/28/2005 6:47:48 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are REALLY stupid.)
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To: tubebender

How far south of Garberville is that? Is it going to be closed for a long time?

(If you know.)


37 posted on 12/28/2005 6:51:30 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: NormsRevenge

My sister was planning on driving over to San Diego from Tucson - this storm doesn't look good for making that trip through the mountains.

Do you know how I can get the weather for the route - all I can find is a southwest region - and it's not definitive enough to tell if the trip would be in the unsafe range.


38 posted on 12/28/2005 6:53:22 PM PST by CyberAnt ( I believe Congressman Curt Weldon re Able Danger)
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To: little jeremiah
How far south of Garberville is that?

From what I can tell on GoogleMaps, about 22 miles.

39 posted on 12/28/2005 6:57:16 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are REALLY stupid.)
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To: NormsRevenge
The last significant flooding in Northern California was during the El Nino year of 1998 and a year earlier, when three people died after levees collapsed north of Sacramento. The danger is lower this time because there was relatively little snow in the Sierra Nevada to be melted by the warm rains.

I was there (north of Sacramento) when the levees collapsed. We had to evacuate for several days. Evac shelters are icky. I slept in my parents car, and as soon as we could, we headed to the Bay Area to find a motel.

I remember at the time of the evacuation, the police going up and down our street with their PA system, urging us all to leave. My dad took that moment in time to start sorting his sock drawer. My mom and I were kind of frantic. He just kind of ignored the situation for about 30 mins, and then decided that perhaps it was time to get the heck out of Dodge. It took three hours to traverse about 7 miles because of the stream of cars leaving town.
40 posted on 12/28/2005 6:58:59 PM PST by birbear (Admit it. you clicked on the "I have already previewed" button without actually previewing the post.)
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