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To: js1138
I don't have to feign humility in the presence of people who say the earth is flat.

No one is claiming the earth is flat. And to try to create some analogy is specious. And all you've been asked to do is show a little humility, or at least civility, towards well meaning people who hold different opinions than you on topics in which individuals more highly educated than you still differ.

The argument from thermodynamics is decided.

Then perhaps you can explain why a Mathematics PhD thinks otherwise, and why Wiley, one of the most respected science textbook publishers, published not only his textbook but also an appendix on this very topic????????

Perhaps you can send them an email asking them to consult with you -- and and Ichy-Dichy-Nine-Doors or whatever he calls himself -- on this topic before making any related publishing decisions. Do show us the response when you get it.... I'd pay cash money for that one.

Speaking of hilarious, maybe you can Ichy can tell Wiley where Sewell's "hilarious" mistakes are.

811 posted on 12/30/2005 7:59:36 AM PST by jbloedow
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To: jbloedow
The main mistake is assuming that evolution involves some physical process that is qualitatively different from metabolism, growth, and development. The processes of life do not violate any laws of physics, but they can be described in ways that make them appear to violate thermodynamics.

Every process and mechanism postulated by and required by evolution has been observed, including favorable mutations. Denying this is equivalent to flat earthism.

The origin of life is a mystery, but evolution is well understood. Most of evolution does not involve increases or changes in overall complexity. The human genome is not larger or more complex than the Amoeba's.
812 posted on 12/30/2005 8:11:24 AM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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