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To: stacytec
Agreed, applying thermodynamics to agrue the case for or against evolution is the biggest straw man a person can make. Mr. Sewell needs to take a break from the algebra and visit a book on logic.

So are there LAWs of Thermodynamics, or not? If there are such LAWs (and all of science recognizes there are), shouldn't we be able to harmonize them with evolution, expecially since we know evolution is as much a fact as gravity, eh?

239 posted on 12/28/2005 7:16:34 PM PST by Timmy
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To: Timmy
If there are such LAWs (and all of science recognizes there are), shouldn't we be able to harmonize them with evolution

Yes

245 posted on 12/28/2005 7:20:18 PM PST by ThinkDifferent (I am a leaf on the wind)
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To: Timmy
So are there LAWs of Thermodynamics, or not? If there are such LAWs (and all of science recognizes there are), shouldn't we be able to harmonize them with evolution, expecially since we know evolution is as much a fact as gravity, eh?

The second law of thermodynamics is an explanation of the nature of entropy in a closed system. The argument being presented is that this law refutes evolution because chaos is the result of the passage of time, not organization. And what I am saying is that this argument is loaded with logical fallacies. Is the system which we live in closed? Damned if I know, but I can tell you that when I look in the sky, I see a giant fusion reaction that hasn't gotten close to burning out yet. If the universe as a whole is a closed system, are we still in its infancy ( meaning that chaos is to come)? Does the 2nd law refute the possibility of any organized system or merely state that chaos is the end result? Where is it stated that the 2nd law prevents organized systems from occurring prior to the collapse into chaos? There are no definitive answers to these questions, so people who attempt to use the 2nd law to knock holes in evolution by creating the impression that they had refuted the position ( when they really haven't) are making a straw man fallacy.

343 posted on 12/28/2005 9:30:48 PM PST by stacytec (Nihilism, its whats for dinner)
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