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To: jbloedow

It's Christian to wallow in ignorant sanctimony?


1,428 posted on 01/09/2006 2:00:29 PM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: js1138
It's Christian to wallow in ignorant sanctimony?

js113, where have you been? You know what, I hate to get all sentimental and stuff, but after dealing with these other folks I've been starting to miss you (and b_sharp and bobdsmith). Good to know you're still there.

By the way, those are some excellent vocab words you used there!

1,429 posted on 01/09/2006 2:06:28 PM PST by jbloedow
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To: js1138

Seriously, though, last time we talked we were actually having a decent conversation. If I recall correctly, we had decided to place the abiogenesis issue off the table for the meantime because you guys admit you have no clue how that happened, and you had asked what processes of evolution might possible violated the SLoT.

I did some looking around, and found that the most developed argument seems to be that:
1) The genome contains information;
2) Evolution involves adding information to the genome via mutation+selection.
3) The SLoT, as extended in Information Theory (Shannon, etc.) says you can't do that spontaneously (ok, it's a bit more formal than that, but you get the idea).

Here's a site on your side that summarizes some of this: http://home.mira.net/~reynella/debate/spetner.htm. (See, I'm not scared to read your stuff!!!)

Anyway, your position is that mutations can add information to the genome in the "Shannon" sense, I take it? And this isn't a problem from a SLoT point of view because... (I'm still reading).

NOTE: this is a bit like arguing with liberals; I find I'm usually better figuring out what their best arguments are myself. (just being a "jerk"!) :)


1,430 posted on 01/09/2006 2:20:58 PM PST by jbloedow
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