[js1138]

This is the level of thinking I referred to as pig ignorant. I am unapologetic.

I am waiting for one of these geniuses to tell me how evolution differs from other life processes in terms of thermodynamics.

[b_sharp]

"I am waiting for one of these geniuses to tell me how evolution differs from other life processes in terms of thermodynamics."

That is the crux of the matter. It is one thing to state that 'order' and 'information' is necessary for abiogenesis and evolution to occur, but quite another to clearly explain the hows and whys inherent in the statement.

So far it seems the creationists and IDists feel it sufficient to just make assertions.

I would really like to see the answer to your question and a to number of earlier questions I've posted.

[Virginia-American]

I am waiting for one of these geniuses to tell me how evolution differs from other life processes in terms of thermodynamics.

So am I.

Happy New Year to all!