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To: Strategerist
Take a look at a pic the amorphous blob of disorganized clouds that Hurricane Katrina formed from, and then look at Katrina at Cat 5 - organized Spiral Bands, symmetrical, with a perfectly round and clear eye. That was accomplished through solar energy, with no intelligent designer at all.

Oh really? Who then wrote the "rules" that allow an "amorphous blob of disorganized clouds" to form into "organized Spiral Bands, symmetrical, with a perfectly round and clear eye". Not once but thirty some times in a row. Solar energy, like any other form of energy is chaos, the intersection of pure energy to create an organized system requires physical rules (gas laws, the Coriolis effect, &c.) to impose order. It is not energy alone that causes a hurricane, nor is it random chance happening.

Merely saying that this involved no outside intelligence begs the question of how the "natural laws" that allow hurricanes to form came to be? It's not likely to be random chance after the season just passed.

Regards,
GtG

102 posted on 12/28/2005 4:29:14 PM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray
Not once but thirty some times in a row. Solar energy, like any other form of energy is chaos, the intersection of pure energy to create an organized system requires physical rules (gas laws, the Coriolis effect, &c.) to impose order

So the argument of the article is bunk afterall. Given physical rules in place, and solar energy coming in, order can arise from disorder.

So for example, The physical rules of natural selection, replication and mutation enable evolution to work. There is nothing about the 2LOT that says it shouldn't work.

471 posted on 12/29/2005 5:58:55 AM PST by bobdsmith
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