[Final Authority]

I posted this because it certainly is a good topic for discussion.

Are the facts correct is one thing I would ask? Is gun confiscation strictly a liberal plan or mindset? Who else would want to confiscate guns? How would gun confiscation be administered?

I think banning guns means more than restrictions on sales of guns and more than gun registration, it must mean going door to door and confiscating the weapons.

[wideawake]

She cleared the background check, passed the safety test and practiced on targets at the local shooting range. Then she shot and killed her daughter and her daughter's fiance - my brother David.

This is a good rule of thumb - base all legislation on a 1-in-300 million occurrence.

Or just in general - if one in 300 million people die of a drug's side effects, and the drug will save the lives of a few million people, ban the drug.

This approach should do wonders for the automobile industry.

[Rummyfan]

Jeez, and I just got back from the gun shop picking up my Christmas present!

[dighton]

The problem is that 60 million people in the United States own handguns. ... These guns are designed to kill people: That's their sole purpose. Nearly 12,000 Americans annually use guns to do just that.

Given the ratio of handguns to kills, they are failing miserably at their “sole purpose.”

[cruiserman]

Of the 12,000 guns used to kill people every year, 160 are used in legitimate self-defense. Guns in the home are used seven times more often for murder than for self-defense.

Not according to studies I've seen.

[rhombus]

No problem. I'm sure everyone will just obey the law and all the big bad guns will just disappear. Poof! Likewise we should have a nuclear freeze and just give up all nukes - that way Iran won't need to make any nukes and neither will Korea and all the bombs and missiles will disappear. Poof! Whoops there goes DC. Now shut the hell up and get under that Burkah Jenny Price. In the new gun-free world women like you will be stoned to death.

[elbucko]

Who else would want to confiscate guns?

Drugies and drug dealers.

[Brilliant]

Well, we could ban narcotics, and that would stop narcotics violations.

[DTogo]

Japan has very strict gun laws, yet murders still occur by other means.

[R. Scott]

“…most murderers own their handguns legally and know how to use them safely.”
Sure would like to see the data on that one.

“Of the 12,000 guns used to kill people every year, 160 are used in legitimate self-defense. Guns in the home are used seven times more often for murder than for self-defense.”
And this one!

“But let's stop arming the populace in the meantime…”
And to hell with the US Constitution that also gives her the right to write this crap.

Where’s the BARF alert? In its defense, it does illustrate the mindset of the left.
NRA member #145480265

[SuziQ]

I'm sure all those who have had a loved one killed by other than handguns would argue that the murder rate would likely be the same. Folks who want to kill someone are going to do it; if a handgun isn't available, they'll use something else.

[Spok]

"The problem is that 60 million people in the United States own handguns."
-who don't misuse them,
-who are law abiding,
-who won't give them up willingly,
-who don't want to become crime vitims, and
-who have read the constitution.

[Mr. Mojo]

"As someone who has lost a member of my family to gun violence..."

No, she lost a family member because a violent human. This human could've used a variety of different tools to commit this murder -- an automobile, poison, a gun, knives, etc.

"Of the 12,000 guns used to kill people every year, 160 are used in legitimate self-defense."

lol....160? I've personally posted over 160 "legitimate self-defense" articles on FR just in the last 6 months alone. The truth is there are many thousands of cases of law-abiding citizens using firearms in self-defense. .....annually.

[advance_copy]

When you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns.

[tarheelswamprat]

What in the world has happened to the "Union-Leader"? Have they been purchased recently by new left-leaning owners?

[wideawake]

Three observations on this article:

(1) We don't know if the author's "brother David" had threatened the woman who shot him.

(2) The author uses bogus statistics: "most murderers own their handguns legally" - an obvious falsehood.

(3) If indeed her "brother David" was murdered by this woman, if the woman had been unable to obtain a handgun, she would have come up with another method.

If she wanted to kill "brother David" so badly that she carefully premeditated the crime over a period of weeks or months, she would have found some other means to carry out her plans.

[Disambiguator]

If we follow Jenny's thinking and mindset to its conclusion, it would go something like this:

"And after guns were banned the clouds rolled back and all the evil handguns were floated up to heaven where they were melted down and made into harps."

"Then rainbows appeared everywhere and the happy citizens, free from the dread of being killed by handguns, danced in the streets, and all the children sang."

"And everyone lived happily and safely ever after, and only Democrats were elected to office from that point on."

[harpu]

Hmmmm...just imagine; 10's of thousands, no, back that 100's of thousands of criminals lining up to turn-in their hand cannons and assault weapons - NOT!

[marine86297]

2 words:

MOLAN LABE!

Semper Fidelis

[mtbopfuyn]

Oh, have I got a story for you. Yesterday, while getting the kids' (teens, btw) check ups our brand new soon to be *EX* doctor started playing the liberal game. One question was if there were guns in the house which was immediately followed a long lecture on the dangers of guns, blah, blah, swiftly notes it in the file, blah, blah, safety, blah, blah, locks, blah, blah, ammo, blah, blah. Somewhere in there I completely zoned out no thanks to a 101 temperature and the "good" cough syrup as the kids' jaws were hanging open in total shock at the doctor. Sadly, it wasn't until after getting home and coming out of the fog from missing a dose of the "good" cough syrup that I told the kids to next time some idiot starts in on gun control to announce proudly that they are tops in their rifle class. Never mind that Mr. M is LE but most importantly WHAT THE HECK BUSINESS IS IT OF THE DOCTOR'S???

[hiredhand]

What do liberals care about "saving lives"? Have you ever tried to pin one down on this? They won't rub elbows with any seriously down and out people. The richest state (and one of the most liberal) in the nation (Mass.) has given less to charity over the past couple of years than the poorest state (Mississippi).

Ms. was hit HARD by hurricane Katrina. Possibly harder than NOLA. But Ms. got practically ZERO press. Why? Because everybody at every little church down there all got together like they had been taught and they pulled together and helped each other out. They didn't all herd like a bunch of cattle to a holding pen where the predators among them could carry out criminal acts in pleasure and terrorize the rest. They didn't shoot at any helicopters trying to deliver aid. It wasn't required that the National Guard be posted in mass numbers there.

The contrast was quit visible. But you didn't hear about it from the main stream media, did you? Nope. That's right. I didn't think so. :-)

Leftist/liberals don't volunteer for anything unless it furthers their political cause, or has a very high "feel good" factor. Which in their own warped thinking has become very offensive to the rest of us. They march for homosexuals, women's rights, unjust wars, that stinking bunch of Arabs everybody calls "Palestinians", the environment, the "right" to murder the unborn, the ousting of God Almighty from public schools and government property...and the list goes on and on.

But I don't run into very many of them who step outside their own little self righteous circles and really try to help anybody in need around them.

They would rather fight for social programs that we as taxpayers pay for, and then take credit for being charitable themselves.

...and when they are successful at passing another social program at our expense, they actually believe they did something good and praise each other for it.

Take 15 minutes and open a Bible and read Paul's letter to the Church at Rome. Read chapter one, verse one through about 27. That pretty much sums them up.