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To: Luis Gonzalez
Whatever anyone else may think about either the celebration, or the acknowledgment is immaterial, because both the right to celebrate and the right to freely acknowledge the celebration are safeguarded by our Constitution. It's called freedom, and freedom does not require your approval, Reverend Jesse's approval, or even Jesse Jackson's approval.

Again, and for the 10th time, I am not trying to ban Kwanzaa. I'm only pointing out the inappropriateness of President Clinton's and, more specifically, President Bush's official presidential proclamation lauding the illegitimate and divisive holiday invented as an oppositional alternative to the "spookism" of Christianity in order to separate blacks from Christianity, foment racial divisiveness in pursuit of a separate black nation, and promote revolutionary marxism. You can pretend all you want that Kwanzaa is benign and somehow disconnected from its founder and its underlying design. However, you have been unable beyond a SINGLE anecdote to provide any basis for your arguments. It's all attack, attack, attack. It isn't about me, it is about Kwanzaa, its founder, its design, its intent, its goals and the appropriateness of any President recognizing it any official way. You refuse to debate any of the actual content of the articles I've provided. You just want to call everyone racists, bigots, religious bigots, and holier than though jackasses. Whatever. Keep it up. With every post you further prove to FReepers and lurkers what a troll you really are.

236 posted on 01/02/2006 3:40:30 PM PST by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Spiff
"However, you have been unable beyond a SINGLE anecdote to provide any basis for your arguments."

OK...then prove your argument.

Link me to the Kwanzaa related violence.

Let me see the Kwanzaa related burnings.

Show me the Kwanzaa organized racial purges.

Show me something.

238 posted on 01/02/2006 7:11:10 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Spiff; Luis Gonzalez
"Again, and for the 10th time, I am not trying to ban Kwanzaa. I'm only pointing out the inappropriateness of President Clinton's and, more specifically, President Bush's official presidential proclamation lauding the illegitimate and divisive holiday invented as an oppositional alternative to the "spookism" of Christianity in order to separate blacks from Christianity, foment racial divisiveness in pursuit of a separate black nation, and promote revolutionary marxism."

Luis, this is a clear and and concise synopsis about the objections of a bogus "holiday" that is sanctioned by our so-called "leaders."

Your habit of cruising tangents irrelevant to main issues has not changed.

241 posted on 01/02/2006 7:26:50 PM PST by F16Fighter
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