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To: Luis Gonzalez

You are still deflecting and failing to answer my question. Would it be acceptable for the President - any President - to officially recognize through a laudatory proclamation a holiday such as one celebrated by the KKK or Nazis? YOU made the argument that the president is the president of all Americans and I factually pointed out that members of the KKK and some Nazis are also Americans. Are you ceding your point or are you going to continue to deflect into religious arguments about the predominant religion in the state of Utah, your queer invocation of Godwin's law, or Hitler's assocation with the German Protestant Church and Christmas? Just answer the question or admit that your point was wrong.


126 posted on 12/28/2005 5:33:13 PM PST by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Spiff
Would it be acceptable for the President - any President - to officially recognize through a laudatory proclamation a holiday such as one celebrated by the KKK or Nazis?

I answered your question quite clearly; yours is a logical fallacy because the people celebrating Kwanzaa are neither Nazis nor Klansmen, so the two do not compare.

Your "question" is the basic equivalent to my saying that abortion should be outlawed because I don't believe in murdering the unborn, and you arguing that so should automobiles because children die in auto accidents.

it's not the same thing.

While the President is president of all Americans, Americans in general will not tolerate a holiday celebrated by people who advocate racial hatred and violence...Kawanza advocates neither, in spite of the actions of its "inventor", the celebration (not a holiday) is simply a celebration of heritage. So your objection to a Presidential remark to the celebrants of Kwanzaa is purely racially based, and motivated by some sort of basic problem within yourself.

These celebrants take nothing from you, they seek to take nothing from you, they force nothing on you, nor do they seek to force anything on you.

You have a problem.

135 posted on 12/28/2005 7:57:34 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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