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To: JamesP81
If you had read the link relating to the study of the Hebrew used in Genesis, you would see why the two are incompatible.

Yeah. And the Pope and Catholic church has never studied the Bible in the original Hebrew so they disagree with you [/sarc].

As I said, some people believe Christian creationism is a myth, and choose not to believe anything in the Bible based on this. This is the definition of a stumbling block.

If you interpret Genesis in a way compatible with the reality we find around us, then that is a *lack* of a stumbling block. When you interpret Genesis literally, then it *is* a stumbling block.

The reality around is isn't going to go away. You can continue and hide your eyes from it and wallow in your interpretation of Genesis, but that won't make reality any less real.

More than one evo on these threads have expressed their disbelief in the Bible due to this fact.

That would be me.

I was forced to reject God after I was convinced by some on FR that I must accept Genesis as written without reading between the lines. This is why I've claimed that literal translations are bad for faith. Because they force those of us that can't accept the contradictions to pick what we see around us, or an old book.

Got a BS degree in computer science from a secular state university. Studied a good amount of physics to go with it. Nothing I learned about science invalidated what I already knew about God and Bible. Try again.

The biology I know I didn't get from my BS/comp sci. Learning algorithms won't tell you about ERV virus DNA found in human and primate genomes. Try again.

My dad's family has been Bible-believing Christians from well before their ancestors even made the trip to this country.

Mine too. My ancestors were some of the religious leaders of the Massachusetts puritans.

But despite claims otherwise, church doctrine changes. I've seen it personally during my lifetime. The Southern Baptist church I grew up in taught a class at a youth retreat in the early 70's that science and the Bible cannot conflict. That evolution did not conflict with Genesis (which the Catholics still teach). That same church has reversed itself and has accepted anti-science dogma as you have.

That reversal in doctrine was another reason I rejected God. A God that has such limited powers of communication that one can believe almost anything, where there are hundreds, perhaps thousands of Christian denominations, and many thousands of non-Christian faiths isn't a God worthy of believing in.

281 posted on 12/28/2005 12:05:33 PM PST by narby (Hillary! The Wicked Witch of the Left)
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To: narby
The reality around is isn't going to go away. You can continue and hide your eyes from it and wallow in your interpretation of Genesis, but that won't make reality any less real.

You are proceeding under a false pretense, that what I'm talking about is an interpretation of Genesis. Narrative/historical Hebrew (which is intended to be taken literally) and poetic Hebrew have differing and easily identifiable grammars. Genesis is of the narrative/historical grammar. This leaves no doubt. It's not an interpretation. It's a fact. Genesis depicts a 6 day creation. You can believe it, or you can deny it. And, for the record, the Catholic church can believe what it wishes. It neither speaks for me nor is its position consistent with the language of Genesis. Their position falls under the heading of mere religion, which I will address later. Beyond that I don't see how that has any bearing on the discussion.

Because they force those of us that can't accept the contradictions to pick what we see around us, or an old book.

As I stated before, I think it was given to us in the way it was in order to force the reader to make this choice, one way or the other. I respect you for at least making a choice on it, even if I think you made the unwise choice.

But despite claims otherwise, church doctrine changes.

No, what changes is religion, which I have little interest in and is very different from biblical truth. Do not confuse the two. What I am talking about has nothing to do with religion, and everything to do with your personal relationship to God.
306 posted on 12/28/2005 1:19:27 PM PST by JamesP81
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