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To: dalereed
Even amking contact with them is treason, execute him.

I think there's value in knowing the enemy, and if the enemy wants to let the press in and give them video tapes that the American public can see, that suits me.

In particular here I found a couple of things worth noting: The way the guy poked the kid in the eye when he was teaching him how to shoot and the way they displayed the American soldiers' gear like trophies. Also, the fact that Ismail justified their actions by saying, "our enemy was coming to get us and we were fighting our enemy" but then admitting that they laid in ambush for the Chinook because they knew Americans would come to get Americans in trouble.

Fascinating stuff and I hope it is widely viewed by Americans. It is inflamatory, which is good. It also gives some insight into the nature of the enemy, which is good. We need more of that and less bashing the president or bashing the troops.

30 posted on 12/27/2005 8:34:03 PM PST by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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To: SittinYonder
Fascinating stuff and I hope it is widely viewed by Americans. It is inflamatory, which is good. It also gives some insight into the nature of the enemy, which is good. We need more of that and less bashing the president or bashing the troops.

I didn't see Bill O'Reilly interviewing former terrorists, but maybe the operative word is former terrorists. So maybe O'Reilly can escape the death penalty in that regard. What you need to realize is that while watching enemy propaganda may be "fascinating" to the historian or the amateur "military analyst", it may also send the wrong message to the uninitiated and the unwashed. You spoke of "insight into the nature of the enemy", but I what I saw said: "we're just freedom fighters attacking only those who attack us"; "we tried to get the Navy Seal to surrender to our tender mercies, but the stubborn galoot wouldn't quit"; "here we are training our army of workers and peasants who want to give their all for Islam and Afghanistan". Where was the message: "we're a bunch of murdering thugs right out of the seventh century"? I missed that part. This is a "Taliban is back, with a vengeance" message, and it very much was US Military and Bush bashing. Sorry you're too "fascinated" to see that.

37 posted on 12/27/2005 8:52:30 PM PST by pawdoggie
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To: SittinYonder

As much as I despise the MSM....and this is bordering on the Fonda treason...you make excellant points. There is very little in the MSM that shows the brutality and insane etermination of the terrorists.


38 posted on 12/27/2005 9:02:02 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Proud to be a cynical, right wing nut job.!)
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To: SittinYonder; pawdoggie; Recovering Ex-hippie
Four years after the U.S. invaded Afghanistan, Taliban and al Qaeda fighters are showing renewed strength, using suicide bombs and rocket-propelled grenades. They are even training the next generation...... ..... Ismail boasts that in June, he deliberately laid a trap for American forces. Ismail: We certainly know that when the American army comes under pressure and they get hit, they will try to help their friends. It is the law of the battlefield. A tape obtained by NBC News showed what appears to be some of the battle, and the terrorists unsuccessful attempt to coax a Navy Seal to surrender. When the U.S. military sent in a rescue team, Ismail's men were waiting with a rocket-propelled grenade, downing the helicopter, and then spreading out recovered weapons and hi-tech equipment. Later, they displayed captured communications equipment and weapons.

SittinYonder, if that's how you see it and see it still, then you need to change your lens prescription!

This whole interview and article was & is designed to elicit sympathy for the "indigenous freedom fighter insurgents" /sarcasm over the "US occupation forces". And then to complete the propoganda, the heroic Ismail even attempted to convince a wounded U.S. Navy Seal to "surrender" before he supposedly blew a helicopter out of the sky. It is complete BullShiite, and the news reporter & NBC mgmt & staff should be shot & hung for treason. How you can profess admiration for this piece of crap is beyond me. All we need to view or be cognizant of in order to know our enemy is to view the beheaded bodies in Iraq and even the beheaded Christian schoolgirls in Indonesia. Let's see when the left-wing/pro-terrorist/anti-American mass media does an interview and article on those atrocities instead of trying to portray TERRORISTS ....again I say TERRORISTS as indigineous freedom fighters. This whole interview was a crock of left-wing BullShiite!

Pawdoggie hit the nail on the head when he said this article was about "Taliban is back with a vengence message, and it very much was U.S military and Bush bashing!" Absolutely the case! Don't give and credence or kudos to the left-wing/pro-terrorist/anti-American hysterical media!

49 posted on 12/27/2005 9:54:08 PM PST by rcrngroup
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