Posted on 12/27/2005 12:53:13 PM PST by RWR8189
And just today we learned from another newspaper article that the FISA court has rejected more Bush administration warrants than in the previous 4 administrations (24 years) combined!
According to the December 2002 report of the House and Senate intelligence committees' Joint Inquiry into the Terrorist Attacks of September 11, 2001, for one, the FISA system as a whole-and the FISA court in particular-went seriously off the rails sometime around 1995.
As the old saying goes "All I need to know about Islam, I learned on 9/11."
Now all I need to know about domestic spying is that there has not been another 9/11.
Thanks W.
And in late 2000, after federal prosecutors discovered a series of legally inconsequential errors and omissions in certain al Qaeda--related surveillance applications the FISA court had previously approved, the court's infamously prickly presiding judge, Royce Lamberth, appears to have had a temper tantrum ferocious enough to all but shut down the Justice Department's terrorism wiretapping program.
In another article, I read that FISA refused to accept warrants from a particular FBI agent because he had made an error in his application for a warrant. The FBI agent used FISA frequently and I think the FISA judges just got tired of dealing with his numerous applications.
And new applications were not forthcoming, the result being that, at least by the reckoning of one FBI manager who testified before the intelligence committees, "no FISA orders targeted against al Qaeda existed in 2001" at all. Not one.
wasn't that the height of the Jamie Gorelic rein of terror?
Definitely the height of the Janet Reno reign of terror.
Yes, of course, we should stop monitoring communication from Al Queda. Let the terrorists have their conversations and email to their terrorists over here and let them bring nukes, vials and bins of chemicals and let them have our cities and devastate our land.
Yes, let the judges dally for 2 minutes while the terrorist conversation is finished, and of course, anything monitored before that is inadmissible.
Yes, of course we want Jamie Gorlick's wall back up and the Department of Homeland security to be abolished.
Aren't you proud now?
Yes. And David Shrum details perfectly how FISA helped erect that wall.
If you're directing those comments toward me, then I think you misread my post.
bttt
The United States Constitution invests in the President, the power and responsibility to defend and protect the United States. The United States Supreme Court and Inferior Courts such as FISA, are given zip in national defense. The duty and responsibility rests in the executive. He must follow the enemy regardless of what FISA decides.
Well....damn....that explains a lot.....
"Well....damn....that explains a lot....." ,br>
Truly. We are in deep ass trouble. Much more then a lot of good folks can comprehend. These clowns in so many cases should never have been hired by our Intel and Law Enforcement groups. We have so many totally incompetent and dangerously mislead goons running things of critical importance it is simply pathetic.
And Ernest, another article detailed that the FISA court rejected or amended more applications during the Bush administration than it had during the previous FOUR administrations (which totalled 24 years). No wonder the president went around FISA.
http://www.gordonthomas.ie/122.html
If true I find it very interesting when viewed in what this article states.
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