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To: carton253; nopardons

I have yet to get an answer to the question "What rights have you lost?"

For some reason, nobody will answer that one.


462 posted on 12/28/2005 7:46:14 AM PST by Howlin (Defeatism may have its partisan uses, but it is not justified by the facts. - GWB, 12/18/05)
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To: Howlin

"I have yet to get an answer to the question "What rights have you lost?" "

That would be the fourth amendment right to unreasonable search and seizure.


465 posted on 12/28/2005 9:23:12 AM PST by ndt
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To: Howlin
I have yet to get an answer to the question "What rights have you lost?"
For some reason, nobody will answer that one.

Franky, I think that question is pointless in the substantive argument. What rights would you lose if you had a government minder? I think the answer to that is -NONE-, except for "privacy," and that could be managed (e.g., we submit to infrequent intrusions now, so the question of "minder" is merely one of frequency).

Of course I realize that "government minder" is an extreme hypotetical that is certainly not suggested, nor does the hypothetical have a snowball's chance in hell of coming about. My point in raising the ridiculous extreme hypothetical is to illustrate that even in that case, the public would not lose any rights.

I can't think of any rights that I lost while the country was under Clinton, or Carter either - or ant that I would lose if Hillary! was elected POTUS.

I certainly don't lose any rights if my phone is tapped full time, and the tax man is calls me in for an audit once a quarter. My rights are unaffected if all of my travel, car rental, hotel visits, bank transactions and retail purchases are reported to the government either, although that would add a compliance cost.

468 posted on 12/28/2005 9:53:34 AM PST by Cboldt
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