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School Districts Consider Random Drug Tests For Students
Associated Press ^ | 12.27.05

Posted on 12/27/2005 9:30:24 AM PST by wallcrawlr

BEMIDJI, Minn. — Random drug testing could come soon to Cass Lake-Bena and Forest Lake districts as parents and educators look for new ways to combat drug use by teens.

The issue of drug use has dominated the headlines near Cass Lake in northwest Minnesota, where there were four separate homicides during two months this fall. Drugs are thought to have been a factor in some of those deaths.

It was enough to prompt Dan Ninham, the Cass Lake-Bena High School basketball coach, to suggest random drug testing for all middle and high school students involved in athletics and other extracurricular activities.

It won't cure all the community's ills, he said, but it might help.

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In his proposal to the school board, he also offered to make himself and his staff available for testing. Ninham said that was unprecedented in the United States.

Many teachers and school officials have given their support to the proposal. So have leaders of the Leech Lake Indian Reservation, of which Cass Lake is the largest community.

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Forest Lake school board member Joe Grafft said it's wrong to think that kids involved in activities won't be involved in drugs. His district will decide next month whether to begin considering random drug testing.

"The high school kids that are athletes or are in activities are at the same parties as the kids that aren't, and they have the same issues,'' said Grafft. "When you look at statewide, 78 percent of kids tried marijuana before they get out of high school. Almost 90 percent are drinking before they get out of high school. I think that that myth is gone.''

(Excerpt) Read more at startribune.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: citizensubjects; nannystate; parentingsubstitute; propertyofthestate; wodlist
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1 posted on 12/27/2005 9:30:25 AM PST by wallcrawlr
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To: DrDavid

ping for commments please.


2 posted on 12/27/2005 9:34:19 AM PST by wallcrawlr (Pray for the troops [all the troops here and abroad]: Success....and nothing less!!)
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To: wallcrawlr

They should do random drug tests on teachers. Half the teachers I know smoke dope and do other drugs on a regular basis. In California you would loose 1/4 of all teachers for pissing dirty. Admin as well.


3 posted on 12/27/2005 9:38:54 AM PST by fisherman90814
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To: wallcrawlr
The Seven-Lesson Schoolteacher

1. CONFUSION

2. CLASS POSITION

3. INDIFFERENCE

4. EMOTIONAL DEPENDENCY

5. INTELLECTUAL DEPENDENCY

6. PROVISIONAL SELF-ESTEEM

7. ONE CAN'T HIDE The seventh lesson I teach is that one can't hide. I teach children they are always watched, that each is under constant surveillance by myself and my colleagues. There are no private spaces for children, there is no private time. Class change lasts three hundred seconds to keep promiscuous fraternization at low levels. Students are encouraged to tattle on each other or even to tattle on their own parents. Of course, I encourage parents to file their own child's waywardness too. A family trained to snitch on itself isn't likely to conceal any dangerous secrets. The 7-Lesson Schoolteacher by John Taylor Gatto

4 posted on 12/27/2005 9:40:01 AM PST by AdamSelene235 (Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
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To: wallcrawlr

I'd only submit to a drug test if the principal held the cup.


5 posted on 12/27/2005 9:41:59 AM PST by Rebelbase (Green bean casserole is a culinary curse upon mankind.)
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To: wallcrawlr
random drug testing for all middle and high school students involved in athletics and other extracurricular activities.

There's nothing more dangerous than a stoned chess player or violinist.

6 posted on 12/27/2005 9:46:00 AM PST by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: wallcrawlr
there were four separate homicides during two months this fall. Drugs are thought to have been a factor in some of those deaths.

Like alcohol was a factor in many homicides during Prohibition?

7 posted on 12/27/2005 9:47:21 AM PST by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: wallcrawlr

...It won't cure all the community's ills, he said,...

But it will help condition the students for their future role as Sheeple.


8 posted on 12/27/2005 9:52:49 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: Rebelbase

In her mouth.


9 posted on 12/27/2005 9:53:48 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: wallcrawlr
School Districts Consider Random Drug Tests For Students

And parents consider homeschool.

10 posted on 12/27/2005 9:59:32 AM PST by Professional Engineer (FRiends don't let FRiends drink Darksheare's coffee.)
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To: Rebelbase
I'd only submit to a drug test if the principal held the cup.

Sounds like a plan to me: "Sorry about your shoes Teach."

This plan is objectionable not only because of civil liberties implications but even more because it won't accomplish anything.

It is usually painfully obvious when someone is abusing drugs. The school staff are too cowed by political correctness and fear of ACLU-types to single anyone out. This plan gives them a "solution" that doesn't involved any heavy lifting or require judgment.

They don't care if it actually works but, then again, when has the government ever cared about results?

11 posted on 12/27/2005 10:04:17 AM PST by Mad_as_heck (The MSM - America's (domestic) public enemy #1.)
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To: Mad_as_heck

Teachers should be random tested as most people are in industries involved in fed contracts. Having kids p tested doesn't do much good since the juvenile justice systems in most areas are a joke - release the child back to the parents where the problem probably started. I say you randomly post a drug dog at the entrance/exits and when the dog barks you grab the kid and pinch him till he sings about his supplier - THE ART TEACHER!


12 posted on 12/27/2005 10:10:19 AM PST by sgbnsgt21793 (integrity - what's that got to do w/ anything?)
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To: wallcrawlr
Our school district has random drug testing but only if parents sign a permission @ registration.....needless to say I do not sign it....It is not any of the schools business what my child does off school grounds or outside school sponsored activities....It is up to me to monitor my child's behavior, so far all three of boys are doing well in life without the governments help....
13 posted on 12/27/2005 10:15:39 AM PST by Kimmers
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To: sgbnsgt21793

LOL my kids refer to the art teacher and an english teacher as pot heads


14 posted on 12/27/2005 10:17:24 AM PST by Kimmers
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To: wallcrawlr

They did a schoolwide debate on this topic at my school and if anyone ever so much as had the balls to suggest I take an RDT, I would drop out of absolutely everything extracurricular- and I've never done drugs once. I have seen street drugs destroy people's lives, but it's not the school's job to save them. Plus, you can only test those students who participate in competitive extracurricular activities and most of the druggies in my school do nothing extracurricular. Thus, it is a WASTE of MY TAXPAYER DOLLARS.


15 posted on 12/27/2005 10:20:59 AM PST by RedBeaconNY (Vous parlez trop, mais vous ne dites rien.)
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To: Wolfie

ping


16 posted on 12/27/2005 10:23:14 AM PST by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: wallcrawlr
Yep good idea, but they failed to include the teachers, school staff, school board and elected official's.

All adults in this town should have physic evals, criminal back ground checks, every year their drivers license is up for renewal. Month bacterial examines to make sure they wash their hands..
17 posted on 12/27/2005 10:24:48 AM PST by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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Libertarian ping.To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here
18 posted on 12/27/2005 10:26:10 AM PST by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: wallcrawlr
This is not a new idea. Local school districts were pushing the concept about 20 years ago when my kids were in high school. The problem then was that the cheap test ($50 at that time) gave 10-25% false positives. The $200 test was somewhat more accurate.
19 posted on 12/27/2005 10:52:17 AM PST by Western Phil
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To: wallcrawlr

UNCONSTITUTIONAL. I WOULD REFUSE.


20 posted on 12/27/2005 11:38:58 AM PST by LEPEN
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